1.3 physics discussion cont on bac board.

[Major_Tom]

Do what others will end up doing, slap the MFW to an insane level. Go fast young Grasshoppa !

[deadscion]

Like I said before I don't think hover was all that important but the speed and agility of the ships has been hampered.
Balance? well I don't care what you call it. The ships are clumsy and sluggish
in 1.3
If getting rid of hover did this then maybe you got rid of too much of the hover and it cost you else where. Computers are weird things to program at times.

[Slaor]

If the seams caused the ball to hover in mid air out of reach of the batter then they might want it fixed...

Always thought it very lame, looking forward to getting into mult more now that it's gone and the "vets" that exploited it have to learn how to dogfight and manage AI units properly. Good riddance.

Doesn't it strike anyone that needing to ask players to obey unenforceable conduct rules to prevent lame base hovering indicates a game issue that required fixing?!? If it's such a "feature" why is it banned in bases? Duh.

Strat scouts might be more sluggish now, if so that should probably get looked at - maybe more strafe ability in mid air etc, which is likely a simple ODF tweak. But flying was plain dumb - that's what bombers are for.

[Dirty Rooster]

Appel, let me explain from my point of view.

When I joined the testing group I was made aware that
because the patch creator hated hovering (not ANY of the testers)
he was removing it as one of the FIRST actions upon the patch.
None of the testers were allowed to suggest its return and many
many of the testers are adept hoovers.
If I was to start a thread in our testing forum and state the case
for re-introducing hovering the thread would probably be locked
and I would probably be kicked out of the test group.

Do NOT blame the loss of hovering on ANY of the testing group.

[GreenHeart]

The developers said that the ability to fly WAS broken physics. They fixed it.

[deadscion]

delete the stupid hover, put altitude limts on hovercraft, do what ever you want to get rid of your stupid almighty friggin hover.

Just put back the lost agility!!!!   How hard is this to understand!!!???

[aougli]

Removing hovering is one of the defining characteristics of 1.3.  Whether in private or public beta the issue is not open to change, regardless of whether it is a good or bad thing.  My understanding is that there will be no switch to allow 1.3 physics on/off because it would take a lot of time and effort, and because some people object to it in pricinple.

People who don't like 1.3 physics will have to weigh this against any improvements in 1.3.  So the choice is likely to be: 1.2 physics and faults vs 1.3 physics and features.  Sadly, 1.2 physics and 1.3 features does not appear to be an option.

[Lizard]

you know what the funniest thing is , when BZ2 was first released there was a massive outcry from the old BZ1 vets over BZ2's (1.0 - 1.2) physics , they complained the ships were too fast and slidey and that the physics didn't seem real enough . Now that everyone has settled into the feel of BZ2 the argument has reversed , instead of giving it this kneejerk reaction to change why not give the patch a chance ?

I'm not saying that I'm 100% happy with everything I've seen but I am at least willing to keep and open mind and give the thing a chance , writing the patch off without even exploring the benefits it offers is , to me , a sign of ignorance and close mindedness .

[Red Devil]

Being able to hover over a base and destroy stuff with impunity is only fun for the pilot and is akin to masturbation.

Time to come down to earth and fight and die like a warrior.

[Major_Tom]

Now Lookie there. There isn't ANY control FREAK insinuating what I have been saying all along.

THANK YOU Dirty Rooster, You are truthful and show the other people who are yet to be saved, that being controlled by others isnt a good thing.

Change subjects, close posts and post stoopid crap to try and put people on the defensive. Bottom line....... Like I have said many times. Control over suckcess.

This place is vile.

[GreenHeart]

The Physics is a bug. Complain & flaming won't change the developers minds.  Closing Thread to prevent futher Flaming & all futher posts about physics will be closed to prevent flaming. those who repeadly attempt to flame about the physics will get banned from this area, that includes you Major_Tom.