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Just a thought on poppers

Started by APCs r evil, April 23, 2004, 07:51:12 PM

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APCs r evil

Instead of the popper aiming directly at the end of the target lead after it (for lack of a better term, pops) why not leave it so it still aims at the target lead but make it track anything in the area like FAFs or Stingers do. This would be the most helpful on maps with rough terrain since the target lead is usually nowhere near where it would be when the air target stops traveling over the bump. And it would still be easy enough to dodge in DMs since it would act like a dumbfire missile.

I have no idea how hard this would be to implement though so its just a thought.

Tempest Storm

That would kinda kill the idea behind the popper though. Its purpose is meant to be a radar signature guided rocket embedded into a mortar supposedly. The idea of it being more of a dumbfire missile just doesn't seem to capture the actual radar guided part much.

APCs r evil

Good point but is there any way to make it radar guided or lock on like shadowers do?

PhoeniX-FlamE

popers are forbideen in some places because alot of people complain its "hard to hit"
i can dodge popers, and persoanly have no problem with popers ingame....
but alot of people, espicley dm hosters which arent vets cant dodge popers themselves and sais poper is not allowed as a rule

making it like a faf / stinger would've even make it worse...
and popers arent used in a strat anyways... ur better off with howitzer in *most* cases...

popoers barly shoot bomber down as well...

Jwk the Hemp Monkey

scion anti-bomber defence is a jammer.

APCs r evil

Well thats true but personally i would prefer to do some damage to the enemy's scrap storage rather than just stop air attacks with something that wont hurt them. (BTW love the new jammer :D ) But i also think what DF said in some other post about them removing the paint from a painted target is a good idea, for example, I was in a 4 way allied strat once and had a bunch of stuff in the middle, it had already been bombed once so i decided to put a jammer there ASAP unfortunately while the cons was going there the enemy's ally attacked it the cons survived but apparently it was painted somehwere along the way so once it built the jammer the other enemy bombed it (it was still in the center BTW) i thought the bomber was going to my base so i went off that way but i found out the hard way that jammers didnt remove paint which IMO doesnt make much sense. :s

Spawn

well, painting is supposts to be a satlalite lock, whick would most likley be therman or visual, not some type or radar.  It is supposts to interfere with radar and targeting, but it doesnt say anything about interfering about visual/heat detection.

Jwk the Hemp Monkey

Yes, i always thought painting was a Satalite lock.....


Which reminds me...mabey painting should only be doable if you have a relay bunker / whatever ?



Would give the scions a bit of a disadvantage early game though...well..thats what being scion is all about :d

PhoeniX-FlamE

target should be disabled or just 'deleted' when ur near a jammer OR red field

Spawn

um...doesnt red feld only affect a single ship?  And what does it do anyway?  I could never figure that out.

Tempest Storm

It clears the radar signature of a ship so radar locking weapons like Poppers and Comet Cruise missiles can't lock onto the ship. Its only a personal disabling of radar signatures though, not an actual radar jammer.

DarkFox

It stops people from (T)argetting you too. It's powerful.

technoid

well, painting is supposts to be a satlalite lock

Yes, i always thought painting was a Satalite lock.....

It's spelled "satellite" folks and did it ever occur to you that with all this wonderful technology why both sides never ever downed those satellites to prevent radar communications and targeting functions (such as in the startup movie)?  :D

APCs r evil

Quote from: technoidIt's spelled "satellite" folks and did it ever occur to you that with all this wonderful technology why both sides never ever downed those satellites to prevent radar communications and targeting functions (such as in the startup movie)?  :D

I thought about it once or twice but never really hard. But now im wondering where the Surface to Orbit missiles are.(At least i think that's what they're called.)

BTW what was that cannon the warrior shot the gun tower with in the intro movie?

Spawn

no, i meant a satlalite, its like a normal satellite, but it is magic and cannot be destroyed...ever...
the cannon was magic burst, like magic blast, but in a different mode