What does unknown icontrol refer to when seen in an access violation message?

[BNG Da BZ Fool]

I've noticed them on a number of my models when I try to use them in the game/map editor.

Do they reference missing or incorrectly childed objects in my models, or are they related to hp_points?

In GSL the scene editor is the equivalent to the hierarchal structure seen in other 3d modeling applications. Drag and drop operations are possible in forming child type relationships within the scene editor (I learned this from watching one of the 3D Buzz tutorials covering this topic).

I've been learning to work with animation in Gamespace and am making some headway with understanding the relationship between key frames and the geometric objects that they are associated with in regard to animation recording and possible use in getting XSI converted X files to run in BZ2. I'm wondering if the game needs to see things formated in a certain way as far as animation is concerned.

[General BlackDragon]

can you post the AV message?

[BNG Da BZ Fool]

I'll post it, but was hoping that someone has enough general knowledge to shed some light on just what purpose icontrol refers to as far as the BZ2 engine is concerned. I noticed quite some time back this message on an assult tank where I apparently got things wrong in the hierarchial gluing of objects in regards to the x y turret thingies. I'll try to post the AV output later today for all to look at...BNG.

[GSH]

Post the message. Then, people can interpret it.

-- GSH

[BNG Da BZ Fool]

Here's the most recent example that I have in terms of the AV actually crashing BZ2. If possible, please include any information on what icontrol means rather then just telling me what's wrong with this particular model as I already am aware of this. I know that icontrol is important but what is it's purpose, function, or reason for existing as far as the game is concerned. Tanks...BNG


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ERR |Debug           |               debug:427  |08:52:09|177594 |Registers:
ERR |Debug           |               debug:428  |08:52:09|177594 |EAX: 000002F0h   CS: 0000001Bh  DS: 00000023h
ERR |Debug           |               debug:429  |08:52:09|177594 |EBX: 00000000h  EIP: 004C661Bh  ES: 00000023h
ERR |Debug           |               debug:430  |08:52:09|177594 |ECX: 0EE7E710h   SS: 00000023h  FS: 0000003Bh
ERR |Debug           |               debug:431  |08:52:09|177594 |EDX: 40000000h  EBP: 0F09ED30h  GS: 00000000h
ERR |Debug           |               debug:432  |08:52:09|177594 |ESI: 00000000h  ESP: 01B6F7ACh           
ERR |Debug           |               debug:433  |08:52:09|177594 |EDI: 006DF928h                       
ERR |Debug           |               debug:443  |08:52:09|177610 | CF: 00210206h PF:0 AF:1 ZF:0 SF:0 OF:0
DIAG|Main            |            mainproc:152  |08:52:09|177641 |Entering critical shutdown

[BNG Da BZ Fool]

Wow...BNG smacks himself silly and then continues to write this post. I never realized how much useful information is tacked to the end of each line in the AV messages relating to the stuff like> unknown icontrol setting.

I guess what helped a bit was reducing the font size and maximizing the window to actually see the extra info. I'm still curious though what icontrol actually is, and why it makes BZ2 crash quite nicely? Any clues guys, or am I among the many who really don't really have a clue either? Would like to figure out how to avoid this if possible by getting a basic understanding of what causes this nasty little issue.

[GSH]

First off, 99% of the time, you can ignore anything above this line:

ERR |Debug           |               debug:757  |08:52:09|177500 |[ E X C E P T I O N ]

The middle of that line (08:52:09) is your computer's wall clock time. The IControl issue was mentioned over a minute before that. Most bugs act up faster. The IControl issue is also mentioned with 'WARN' - at the start of the line -- it's a warning, not an error.

Looking at timestamps, just before the exception, it said "Missing binary mesh 2x2xcube.xsi, use XSI". I'd start w/ whatever ODF is referring to that xsi/msh, it seems to have problems.

pb4 has a more reliable callstack generation mechanism (written by the low-level system engineers at Microsoft, the guys who know what they're doing). pb3's bz2edit.exe might have a little more info than 1.2's bzone.exe, not sure.

-- GSH

[BNG Da BZ Fool]

What does this section refer to?

WARN|IControl        |            icontrol:1156 |08:50:20|68547  |Unknown IControl setting [SetIntegerRange] for [PnumberEdit]
WARN|IControl        |            icontrol:2629 |08:50:20|68547  |Unknown Geometry setting [HCENTER] for [Okay]
WARN|IControl        |            icontrol:2532 |08:50:20|68547  |Unknown Control Style [LEFTTAB] for [Vehicle]
WARN|IControl        |            icontrol:2532 |08:50:20|68547  |Unknown Control Style [LEFTTAB] for [Vehicle]
WARN|IControl        |            icontrol:2532 |08:50:20|68547  |Unknown Control Style [LEFTTAB] for [WinAvail]
DIAG|GLOBAL          |               ifvar:38   |08:50:22|69969  |Var[scrap.supply] Ctrl[Gauge] needs to be resolved
WARN|IControl        |            icontrol:2961 |08:50:22|69969  |Unknown Justification [HCENTRE] for [Count]

[Nielk1]

Just things in the CFG that are not used and have no function. Oddly, I think HCENTER should be HCENTRE, but as I said, those don't mean anything except for interface mistakes/old code.

I myself paste the [ E X C E P T I O N ] line, everything after it, and maybe 5 lines max above it.

[General BlackDragon]

Looks like a broken shell.

What custom shell things do u have recently made/installed?

[BNG Da BZ Fool]

It's nice not to have to post the entire AV for simplicity's sake. I got the model to load on a second attempt without it crashing again. I'm guessing that this was possible as BZ2 must have created the missing MSH file prior to the AV event on the original crash.

Is this a common issue with new models prior to a MSH file needing to be present for the engine prior to processing any data properly? Or is this related to something else that I'm missing when using an existing ODF file?

My understanding is that the XSI file is primarily used to create the MSH file (if not present) rather then the XSI file itself. Is this correct? If this is the case then a modeler should basically ignore the first crash event and then reload the object again to get things loaded properly. However, if a second crash occurs then there's another issue going on; not related to a missing MSH file, but something else either in the ODF or the model itself...right or wrong?

GBD, what are you refering to with shell things? Sorry just need clarification, but I haven't made changes to the 1.2 install other then patching it and installing a few mods for this version.

[GSH]

The stock .cfg files have always produced some warnings. Just ignore them, if the warnings are no different from starting up any other mission. Note: this will take a little knowledge/memory on your part to know what's always there. If you can't do this, then ignore everything above the EXCEPTION line and pretend it's not there.

-- GSH

[shane ward]

The error involves something to do with the 2x2xcube.xsi file not being converted to Msh. Check the ODF and see if geometryScale is set to 0. I noticed this will prevent the MSH file from being made, and also check to see if the Xsi file has all the requirements for the game to run.

Xsi file is normally a editable template that modders can use before the game makes A msh file. Msh file makes it faster to load and run.

[bigbadbogie]

if the xsi is broken, a texture is the wrong format... there are a dozen things that could do that - just make sure the xsi model is working

[Steeveeo]

Microsoft, the guys who know what they're doing

Somehow, I find so many things wrong with this statement