Mod conversion, questions for pb4

[mrtwosheds]

Thought I start a new topic, as I will clearly have allot of questions to ask while converting The Legions Of Skaro to pb4.

Yes I have just copied the whole thing over and am starting to deal with issues.

I am slowly reading the change log!

Previously my extractors had that old issue the scion extractor had, when a scav deploys the (sunken) extractor model is built on top of the pool and then drops down to ground level once completed, was a small ugly issue. Now the same thing happens but the ground comes up to meet the extractor. Big problem.
Any clues as to why this may be and how I might fix it (without redesigning the extractor model)

[bigbadbogie]

change the scav's setAltitude to 1.5 and see if that helps - thats what i had to do to the qf one

[General BlackDragon]

adjusting the height of the model and/or setaltitude to match.

[mrtwosheds]

Its a hoverscav its already set to
setAltitude = 0.875     //Height from the ground

more would look silly.
I see a bit in the changelog about exchanging pools and extractors, presumably this is the source of the behaviour change.
The base part of the extractor is the scion extractor base, with a different texture. as far as I can tell the stock model has not been altered or replaced.

Hmm just removed ownsterrain=1 from odf. will test later.

[General BlackDragon]

Basically, since your scavenger is 0.875 meters in the air, the extractor is created at that height. So, Adjust the origin of the extractor to accomodate for a scavenger deploying at 0.875 in the air. (move the height of everything up or down by 0.875 in notepad. honestly can't recall wich direction though)

[Nielk1]

GBD, I tried that with no luck. I will invite you into the beta for my Simple Rec Variant Pack

[General BlackDragon]

kk. Remind me to fiddle with it tomorrow. Although no promises. As I've learned from modding, sometimes things just dont work 

[bigbadbogie]

whats going on n1?

if you need help just ask

[mrtwosheds]

The stock scion extractor sometimes does it too and spires (in 1.2) I have not seen it in 1.3
It seems to be that the bottom of the model is placed at ground level instead of the root, this now causes the ground to raise, breaking the terrain if its next to a building, the terrain goes down again when the extractor is destroyed.

This conversion is not going to be quick, quite allot of my stuff needs fixing.

[mrtwosheds]

After a quick dvscav rebuild, putting the dummy root at the base, I conclude the following.

From 1.3 pb4 HoverScavs will build extractors at their setAltitude above the pool ground level, pulling the terrain up to that height.

So I set setAltitude = 0.0
For some reason my scavs still hover at an acceptable height from the ground.

[Nielk1]

I used a line to align my scav's deployed for to the ground. It makes it build with a tear and snap to the ground afterward.

I can not get the hover heights to work how I want, and items at height 0 do not fall when they are a higher altitude then they should be.

[Steeveeo]

Im guessing that making a pseudo-hoverscav would work better than a real one (ie, invisible tracks).

[Nielk1]

Nope, water becomes an issue.

[mrtwosheds]

and items at height 0 do not fall when they are a higher altitude then they should be.

Yes I noticed that, scavs hovering around at all different heights, quite a cool feature really, if it had been deliberate.

[Nielk1]

It's a 1.2 bug kept because of how useful it was to making elevators.