Battlezone 2 having very low framerates or lagging

[Vid]

They are all set as low as they can go.  I don't have the Ti200 anymore unfortunately.
Paging file is 3gb.

I'll try going back to an older driver(84.something I think) tonight or tommorow, but worried it will affect other games.

Is it normal to have to alienate newer games to be able to play an older one if it turns out to be the driver?

Under my nvidia control panel I also have alot of options available.
Anisotopic filtering
antialiasing - gamma correction
AA - Setting
AA - Transparency
Conformant Texture Clamp
Extension Limit
Force mipmaps
Multidisplay/mixed GPU acceleration
Stereo - Display mode
Texture filtering - anisotropic mip filter optimization
Texture filtering - Anisotropic sample optimization
Texture filtering - Negative LoD bias
Texture filtering - Quality
Texture filtering - trilinear optimization
Triple buffering
Vertical Sync

Leave those application controlled or off?  or should I set them differently.

[Red Devil]

Set the BIOS video aperture as high as it will go, which is probably 256 or 512.  Lower the settings for everything else, one at a time, until things improve.

[Avatar]

Someone else mentioned drivers, and that's been the case for me.  With the latest Invidia drivers BZ2 chugs to a complete halt after 10-15 minutes of playing.   It seems normal for awhile, then stutters for a bit, then slowly grinds to a halt.

Rolling back to an earlier driver set fixed things, and I've resisted the urge to grab the latest and greates for some time now.    Gotta have my BZ2...

-Av-

[Vid]

When it crashes I sometimes get:

Fatal Error

Uhoh.  Repeatedly failed to call BeginScene, Probably some kind of graphics error.  Exiting.

[Nielk1]

Drivers...

Dropped support for older games.

Try rolling back and see if that helps. Or just finding older ones.

[Vid]

93.71_forceware_winxp2k_english_whql.exe
directx 9.0c aug 2006


60fps throughout, never drops below 40.  Went back to every mission I lagged in, and so far I can't drop it below 50 in most situations,   it drops below 40 on mission loading though.... but you don't need FPS then.

Went back to the same mission where you have to defend the two pieces of "hardware",  its so much easier doing that at 60fps than at 5fps.

Now I just hope my other games work on this older driver.

Also I'm up on medium settings atm, will try high as well.

[Axeminister]

Glad you got it going.

[technoid]

Glad you got it going too.  If you are worried about the other games, perhaps you can obtain another PC and configure it to be your BZII rig.

[TheJamsh]

dont worry about that

as Nielk1 said, the next patch should improve FPS a lot. You've just got to be patient.

Even more patient seeing as GSH is going to have even more other things taking up his time soon!

[Vid]

/sighs, get it going good, and get to the scion missions.
Everytime I have a scion builder go make a lung(which if you know the missions... this makes doing them hard)....   game crashes.

No errors, just black screen, lock, and exe poofs.  Maybe it just don't want me to play the scion missions.  ISDF missions work ok still.

[bigbadbogie]

After the game crashes... post up the contents of BATTLEZONE.log from the root directory and we should be able to find out the problem.

[Vid]

The lung was made this time.  This time it crashed when I morphed the ship.  

---- Battlezone II Log File ----
//=====================================================
App version: Patch 1.3pb4a Aug  4 2008 12:08:55
Windows version: Windows Version: 5.1.2600 'Service Pack 2' PlatformID=2

Last few battlezone.log lines (may or may not be relevant):
DIAG|GLOBAL          |            runcodes:153  |01:48:13|19501  |[Main] Entering run code [MISSION]
DIAG|GLOBAL          |            runcodes:153  |01:48:13|19501  |[Mission] Entering run code [RUN]
DIAG|GLOBAL          |            runcodes:153  |01:48:13|19505  |[View] Entering run code [CINERACTIVE]
DIAG|GLOBAL          |            runcodes:153  |01:48:15|21529  |[View] Entering run code [COCKPIT]
(done)

Exception code: 40000015 {Fatal Application Exit}
%hs

Message :  Unhandled Exception
Error occurred at 3/15/2009 01:50:18.
D:\Battlezone 2\bzone.exe, run by JEP.
1 processor(s), type 586.
Process Memory :   1775 MB free out of   2048 MB total
Physical memory:   1432 MB free out of   2048 MB total
Page(swap) file:   3441 MB free out of   3943 MB total
Fault address:  005783DF 01:001773DF D:\Battlezone 2\bzone.exe

Registers:
EAX:00000000
EBX:00390000
ECX:00000000
EDX:7C90EB94
ESI:00C9CB88
EDI:00000000
CS:EIP:AF7001B:005783DF
SS:ESP:42280023:022EF964  EBP:0AF7D980
DS:AF70023  ES:AF70023  FS:AF7003B  GS:22E0000
Flags:00200202

Call stack:
Address   Return    Function            SourceFile
005783DF  00000000  005AC771  dlfree+0x0000060F
005AC771  00000000  00484AD5  MeshEnt::Release+0x00000071
00484AD5  00000000  00505C2F  MeshEnt::~MeshEnt+0x00000027
00505C2F  00000000  0048F5C4  ENTITY::Remove+0x00000013
0048F5C4  00000000  0049B34D  GameObject::Remove+0x000000E1
0049B34D  00000000  00481079  LandCreature::Explode+0x00000102
00481079  00000000  0049AB0F  Craft::Simulate+0x00000348
0049AB0F  00000000  0050715D  LandCreature::Simulate+0x00000044
0050715D  00000000  0046763A  ENTITY::SimulateAllLocal+0x00000180
0046763A  00000000  00468195  MoveOneTurn+0x0000015B
00468195  00000000  0057DDAF  MissionHandler::State::RunState::Process+0x000003B1
0057DDAF  00000000  00465C7A  RunCodes::Process+0x000001BF
00465C7A  00000000  0057DDAF  MissionHandler::Process+0x00000012
0057DDAF  00000000  0057D8B4  RunCodes::Process+0x000001BF
0057D8B4  00000000  0045B598  Main::MessagePump+0x00000064
0045B598  00000000  0045B28D  HandledMain+0x000003F6
0045B28D  00000000  00458BC8  HandledMain+0x000000EB
00458BC8  00000000  0056DBFD  WinMain+0x00000059
0056DBFD  00000000  7C816FD7  fabs+0x00000191
7C816FD7  00000000  00000000  RegisterWaitForInputIdle+0x00000049



That came up in a runtime error.


Full log file won't fit in one post

I installed a second BZ 2 in a diff directory and left it at 1.0 instead of 1.3 PB4
Transformation(first scion mission) went off without a hitch with no other modifications.  Still crashes in PB4.

[Vid]

Thanks for all the help by the way.
Between 1.0 and 1.3PB4a, I can play through every mission except one.

Scion mission #2, Ambush
1.3PB4a - can't get to it as I'm stuck in #1 Transformation even game.cheat bzwinner crashes/error.

1.0 - can do the mission up until it says take a builder to the ambush spot.   I send a builder to the ambush spot, and build a jammer beside the ambush spot, neither the builder to ambush nor jammer objectives update.  I build jammers all throughout my base as I can, move the builder back and forth, but can't find a way to update it.  After a while, I go storm the ISDF base out of anger, and easily destroy it, but then a neverending wave of counterattacking ISDF units comes.

[Axeminister]

You don't just have to build a jammer, it tells you that you must also build some defenses. And that means usually one spire, but I always bring two guardians there also. It won't activate until you build that spire.

[technoid]

Thanks for all the help by the way.
Between 1.0 and 1.3PB4a, I can play through every mission except one.

Scion mission #2, Ambush
1.3PB4a - can't get to it as I'm stuck in #1 Transformation even game.cheat bzwinner crashes/error.

1.0 - can do the mission up until it says take a builder to the ambush spot.   I send a builder to the ambush spot, and build a jammer beside the ambush spot, neither the builder to ambush nor jammer objectives update.  I build jammers all throughout my base as I can, move the builder back and forth, but can't find a way to update it.  After a while, I go storm the ISDF base out of anger, and easily destroy it, but then a neverending wave of counterattacking ISDF units comes.

In Ambush, are you using the Builder that was already provided when the mission loads up to make the Jammer?  Do not make another Builder from the Matriarch and then send that to the Jammer point (use a second Builder for anything else).  From what I remember, the script only calls for the Builder already manufactured right as the game starts.  I don't recall the spire activation that Axes mentions, but also give that a shot.

Try BZII version 1.1 or 1.2 to run this mission if you can't run it in 1.0, if you haven't already.  You can also install versions 1.3pb1, pb2, pb3 and pb4 (not pb4a) if that gets your gander.