Scavenger deploy-Scrap delay

[Scav-Avenger]

Does anyone notice that there is a delay in your scrap income when deploying a scavenger on a pool? Is this confined to 1.3, or is it in 1.2 as well? They delay lasts until the scavenger is fully deployed, the extractor tube and all. This results in a few seconds of scrap income wasted.

[Zero Angel]

Yes, it happens in 1.2 as well

[Scav-Avenger]

Yes, it happens in 1.2 as well

Fix needed?

[Mr X]

It doesn't need fixing, I was recently looking at the ODF for scavengers and noticed that this was put in completely intentionally.

[Scav-Avenger]

Weird. So getting a scavenger to deploy on a pool might cause you to lose the amount of scrap you actually will get if you did not deploy the scavenger.

[TheJamsh]

There is an initDelay setting. That setting is there to allow the animation to finish, so its totally intentional.

[Vid]

It also stops when you upgrade a scavenger.  Annoys you when you're building and you also upgrade a scav, then your meter just stops at 0 or 20 and holds there.   Strange thing is,  if you have a scavenger collecting, and its collection pushes you past the "animation scavenger", you'll still have to wait your time later.  I've had times where I stayed above the newly upgraded scav for 3-4 minutes, then finally spent enough and was surprised when it froze at 0.

[Warfreak]

Get over it... Its there FOR A REASON AND WILL NEVER GET "FIXED" IN THE STOCK ASSETS.

however, you can always make a RecVar that has scavs with no initDelay. 

[bb1]

Somewhere in the code it should only have initdelay for the first scav and not for subsequent scavengers.

[GSH]

This was a feature asked for by the designers of BZ2. It exists in version 1.0, and every version since. 1.3ta5 allows you to make a recy variant that turns this delay to 0, but stock will remain unchanged.

-- GSH

[Vid]

Yes, its merely an annoyance, not a problem.  Similar to how turrets take a few seconds to deploy.  It makes sense in the way an extractor would extract scrap, except for that fact that BZ doesn't pull scrap from all scavs at once, it is a little weird in that. 

ie..  the only thing I could see about fixing it, would be to make the "newly deployed/upgraded" extractor be at the top of the scrap meter instead of the bottom like they are now. 

Basically if you have 2 scavs deployed and then deploy a third one,  this third one shouldn't cause your scrap to freeze at 0, but at 40(the limit of scrap the other two can pull).  If you have 1 upgraded extactor, and 2 regular extractors, then put down a 3rd extractor, you shouldn't freeze at 20, you should freeze at 60.  That is the only flaw if any I see in the workings.

However its worked fine since the game has been out and I don't think its worth changing.  /shrugs.  Very small minuscule annoyance that would probably take considerable code work to fix.

[Zero Angel]

It works that way in 1.2 and possibly 1.3 as well. If you have 2 pools and recently get a third, then the scrap income will freeze at 40. It can be an annoyance, yeah, but you can also use that game mechanic to your advantage when fighting vs a human opponent.

[Vid]

Hrm, from my experience a new extractor or new upgraded extractor will always put themselves on the bottom of that section of the bar.   You have 2 red, 1 yellow, and you get a new yellow... it will freeze at the 40 mark, not 60.  You have 2 red and 1 yellow, and you upgrade the yellow.. it will freeze at 0.  Though I do play 1.2 sometimes instead of 1.3TA5