I am presently trying to get the music working in BZ1 again.
About a year ago my CD snapped, and I have since had to play BZ off an ISO file which I burned, luckily.
Unfortunately, the music no longer plays. I can still play the game fine, BUT I NEED THE MUSIC BACK!!
Does anyone know why it wont work? It may have something to do with the CD not having audio tracks.
I have already tried a bin/cue file with the audio tracks on it, but they still wont play.
Perhaps BZ1 is looking specifically for your first disk drive. If you want, burn a new bz1 disk, or burn one with a blank track 1 and the other tracks on (music disk) and have that in when you play. It should restore the function.
Quote from: Nielk1 on December 15, 2008, 12:13:49 AM
Perhaps BZ1 is looking specifically for your first disk drive.
Bugger. That is what I feared.
Quote from: Nielk1 on December 15, 2008, 12:13:49 AM
or burn one with a blank track 1 and the other tracks on (music disk) and have that in when you play. It should restore the function.
What?
Quote from: bigbadbogie on December 15, 2008, 01:50:30 AM
What?
The BZ1 disk has several tracks, a data track, and then the audio tracks. You can either burn the BZ1 disk again, or burn an audio disk with the tracks. Be warned, if you forget to put something in track 1 to be ignored, all tracks played will be off by 1.
Perhaps there is a setting in some BZ1 config file about disk drive?
BZ1 plays whatever music disk is in the drive.
My windows media player thinks my BZ1 disk is a Slayer Album :D
Mine thinks BZ2 is some obscure death metal band... Lazarus or something...
Maybe play the music in media player (or winamp, or iTunes, or whatever you use) in the background. Media player stops after one track if you're using a full-screen program, running it in skin mode fixes this. The music from all the original games can be found on bzcomplex.
Quote from: General BlackDragon on December 15, 2008, 08:38:34 AM
BZ1 plays whatever music disk is in the drive.
My windows media player thinks my BZ1 disk is a Slayer Album :D
Only if the CD is in the drive when you boot up the game.
But you need to have the BZ CD in there to get the game open in the first place.
yes, but my point is, it plays any music in game from cd, so just burn the bz1 sound track to a CD.
It wont work. It only reads 1 CD, either the audio or the actual bz1 CD.
Since I only have the ISO file with no audio tracks, it only reads that. I load the ISO with daemon tools.
Even if I minimise the game and swap the bz1 ISO for an audio disk image (bin/cue), it still doesn't work.
It is an unmodded v1.4 of battlezone.
The music used to work with the same install when I had the original CD.
DX missed the problem.
You can remake an ISO with the music files in there, or unmount it once the game has launched.
I tried unmounting after the game had launched. It didn't work.
How can I remake the ISO with the BZ files plus the audio tracks? I have tried everything I could find.
I made it myself.
325 mbs. Pretty huge for only a few songs that are only a total of 15 mbs.
The bin/cue works as a regular audio CD when mounted.
Quote from: bigbadbogie on December 15, 2008, 11:01:24 PM
325 mbs. Pretty huge for only a few songs that are only a total of 15 mbs.
The bin/cue works as a regular audio CD when mounted.
Not big at all, note how the audio is encoded in a very inefficient way.
They are all on there.
I have listened to them all through daemon tools and windows media player, having it think it was a CD.
I'm having the same problem, actually. Fortunately my Battlezone disc hasn't snapped so I can still run it with the CD, but whenever I don't have the CD in the music doesn't work.
Just burn the ISO?
Quote from: General BlackDragon on December 15, 2008, 08:38:34 AM
BZ1 plays whatever music disk is in the drive.
My windows media player thinks my BZ1 disk is a Slayer Album :D
I have tried putting a whole heap of different CDs in the drive and none of them play during BZ missions.
First I put a burned BZ disk in the drive, and get past the CD checking point where I click single player.
Then I put another CD in the drive and start a mission. The music doesn't play.
Are you sure you could get it to play in BZ1 GBD?
I thought ISO's could have multiple tracks, data and audio just fine?
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Listen to this and follow it to the letter, it should fix it.
Download the BZ1 audio tracks from BZComplex.
Play them in media player, and put media player in skin mode.
Launch BZ1. The music will still play in menus and such, but I'm sure you can live with that.
I would prefer to fix it ingame.
That is what I would call a last minute desperate soloution.
Can somebody who has bz1 please test whether they can swap their battlezone CD for a regular audio CD during the game and see if that music is played?
Last minute, yes, but it will work if nothing else will.
I say again, burn the damn thing to a real CD.
I already did. I burned the game and the music both to seperate CDs.
I tried it, and it still doesn't work. Can Bz1 play normal audio CDs during the game or is that just bz2?
See if you can get a no-CD thing for it and try with your audio disk in the drive on launch.
There aren't any working No-cds.
Quote from: bigbadbogie on December 18, 2008, 03:21:54 AM
I already did. I burned the game and the music both to seperate CDs.
I tried it, and it still doesn't work. Can Bz1 play normal audio CDs during the game or is that just bz2?
Burn...
1...
Disk...
With...
Everything...
It can't be done.
Audio disks and data disks are a different format.
NOT THEY ARE NOT!
Just do a mixed CD, it is REALLY SIMPLE!
Don't do enhanced, that put data as last track, we want it as first.
And if you have an image, you don't EVER choose what type of disk you are making, you just say 'Burn Image'.
A 'data' disk is an audio disk, but the track contains a filesystem instead of PCM (uncompressed audio) data.
You can still have more tracks that have normal PCM data while the first (or even others) contain a filesystem.
They have been like that since the 80's. You might need to update your knowledge a touch. :P
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Quote from: Nielk1 on December 18, 2008, 05:57:37 PM
NOT THEY ARE NOT!
Just do a mixed CD, it is REALLY SIMPLE!
Don't do enhanced, that put data as last track, we want it as first.
And if you have an image, you don't EVER choose what type of disk you are making, you just say 'Burn Image'.
If it is so simple, then why dont you explain how?
I just use Nero to burn disks. Either 'data' or 'audio' cds.
What options do I need to set?
Not sure exactly of the steps in Nero, but DEFINITELY data, if you are making a new disk.
You have an IMAGE which includes ALL the tracks, so just burn the darn thing from your standard burn image to disk option.
I can't have an image with audio and data at the same time. I have tried it with bin/cue, nrg and iso formats. There is no way whatsoever to merge an audio image with a data image.
Its pretty darn hard to edit compiled ISOs. When you make them they get all the tracks. ALL OF THEM. When you make an image of a game with addition tracks, audio or otherwise, they become part of the ISO.
I just tested, iso's, bin's, mdf's all support multi-track audio and data disks just fine. So again, you really need to fix your knowledge in this subject area. :P
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Fine. I admit it. I don't know what to do.
Would someone please explain how to make multi-track audio/data disks?
I start up Nero (version 6, yes I know it is ancient, but it is my last paid-for version). I goto the Audio tab, and click "Make Audio and Data CD" (make sure to have the advanced things on or you will not see it). On the left are two sections, Data and Audio. I drag files to the data, and wav (or mp3 or whatever) files to the audio. I then burn. Simple.
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On my version, it says that it saves the audio to the first tracks and data to the last one.
That means it wont show up as being a battlezone disk at all and only be an audio disk with other files on it.
There was an area in Nero to specify the exact tracks somewhere, I think it involved making a data session, then appending an audio session with new tracks on top of that...
Could always make an 'enhanced' cd as well, which 'hides' the audio in the first session, and data in the second, therefor it plays fine in cd players, but you don't see the audio on the computer unless something specifically looks for it, like a cd audio app. :P
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I used to use Roxio EZ CD Creator, somewhere around version 5 I think...
It allowed 'mixed mode' discs but I don't think I could specify where it put what... still, it might be worth trying an older CD burning package to see if things were simpler. I personally find Nero to be a little fuzzy feature-wise... seems overly complex to do simple things.
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Yea. Nero was one of those that can do anything, just cannot do everything easily. Unlike others which can do the usual things easily, but nothing else at all. I prefer power over ease of use personally. :)
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Quote from: OvermindDL1 on December 28, 2008, 08:35:30 PM
I prefer power over ease of use personally. :)
only because youre the BZUniverse Genius :lol:
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oh dear, i think was late when i wrote that
Quote from: Dx on December 29, 2008, 09:49:07 PM
I made 4 of them, the last of which is the best to use.
May I ask where to get them from?