Today I got up, started some laundry, went to visit my insurance agent about canceling my policy with them due to switching insurance companies. They haven't been around for a couple of weeks now, and were impossible to work with for a month before that.
They weren't there. I had to call their parent company to get a human.
I come home, move some laundry around, make some code changes in MM5 to hopefully get BZ2 to run longer when it runs it (haven't seen the issue myself). For some reason I find coding relaxing. Decide to test the changes by running BZ2. Hell, why not play an actual game, I have time.
I start up a MPI on the latest public beta. No password, anyone can join, firewall should let people in. Start beating up on the CPU, but not too much, I want to go for an hour or so at least to make sure things are stable.
Ten minutes into the game someone joins. Named "playisdf". No clue who they are at this point. I wasn't playing as "CmptrWz" so I don't know if they knew who I was, doubt they did.
They ask if they can join me. That was fine. I say yes. They come in.
They ask for a Sabre. I happen to have one, I give them it.
Then they kill me, call me a n00b, and tell me to give them command. I kick them.
A moment later they come back in, apologize, and get back into the game. No sooner do I hop out of my scout to change settings in the recycler do they kill me again.
I ban them.
A few minutes later my firewall tells me that they are portscanning me. They find a few fake processes I keep running just for people who do so, and attempt to get into them. Fail, they are fakes after all, but I have a nice log of all the attacks they tried.
I resume playing, figuring I will look into it later. Being pissed I am doing great and horribly at the same time. Good at blowing stuff up, not so good at base management.
Someone else comes in, this time with an actual name. Which I am withholding. They ask if they can join me. I say yes. They come in and join me. Not longer after they ask if they can have command, I politely decline. So they kill me. I have had enough of this, I ban them too.
Not long after that I have to take care of something else, so I quit. Later, looking at things here on BZU and in my firewall logs both people appear to have most likely been the same person. Who emailed ME with my own IP saying that if I am registered on BZU I should ban myself.
I have opted not to ban them from BZU, however. They probably won't care anyway. But if people in the community are pulling crap like this, well, I don't want to be in it anymore. Every time I try to play BZ2 I like the community less and less.
BZU is now in "reply only" mode, with one exception. Registrations are no longer moderated, they are outright disabled. In the near future I will decide if BZU should go to being a static site, or just go away.
I think I ran into that guy... I never knew he was port scanning me when I banned him, got'ta look that up now. Some of the ppl I run into online are despicable. At least the Australians have all been nice so far but you have to be up so late/early to play with them.
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If you are going to make it read only PLZ warn me so I can bump my site's topic up (with your permission of course).
Did you try blocking their ip from your connection? I know there alot of players among bz2 that do that sort of crap so i just block ip for good and take no regret for it. About 5 weeks ago i hosted a game like you did and they tried to break through picked ip and banned them. Made a phone call with that ip in hand, called service provider gave them ip etc etc done with it. I only let people in game that i know of and that's it. If they caused me a problem before and join i either ban or kick name or ip. Some players are making names that you cant ban but if i knew how to ban ip in bz2 i would be very happy.
@Nielk1 So true for the Australians. I passed out while playing a game with them head on desk when i woke up lol.
I run into the least garbage players in BZ2. BZ1, GMod, Battlefield, all full of what GMod call's Mingebags.
It is more of a situation with with humanity as a whole.
:(
IN any game, there are bound to be people like that.
I've never run into someone quite THAT bad. I think you just have bad luck. :|
Please don't take your anger out on us, we have nothing to do with whoever that was :( I really don't see why we should be punished.
We're not so much being punished as CmptWz is just no longer providing a service.
I've had arguments with ppl about how driving is a privilege not a right and all that so I've got this argument down. :-P
It is very sad however :cry:
I run into those types of players myself sometimes, but not always, and we aren't them.
I've had some of the most enjoyable games with some of the best players lately. Everybody's respectful, looks out for one another, shares units and command, and are very pleasant.
There's always a few bad apples that want to spoil the barrel.
Thanks "CmptrWz" what a star!
Once little t**AT messed things up and pissed you off and now you decide to make bzuniverse useless.
If you want to play a good game then I am sure there are lots of people here that will be happy to arrange a time to play a good and sensible game, of course when you play a game without arranging it you will get the odd dodgy person appearing and messing things up.
But why close and mess up the site, what did I do? I offered a lot to you and everybody else in this community and nothing to say about this massive project that I am already working on in secret. Now it's all messed up, cannot get support cannot post, cannot do nothing.
I did not realise that this happened until a few moments ago. I am so pissed, it feels like I posted too many things and I am not blame!
I get crap all the time, but I just take it in one way and let it go. There are time that things are hard, but this is too the point that could end BZ2.
You do realise that bzuniverse is the HUB for everything related to battlezone!
This just sucks!
Normally I am not a person to get this angry, but this just added the icing on the cake!.
Shane
I have my community free site on my profile made by invision if he wishes to ditch bzuniverse. Quite boring at it though but 1 main rule. No spam and you still do it when i say no spam well your banned for a month. Spelling error a day or more :P.
Every time I have popped into someone else's game, or started one up myself, in the past YEAR, if not longer, I have either had to deal with people being pricks because I showed up as "CmptrWz" or have dealt with people being pricks because I did NOT show up as "CmptrWz".
Used to be I could show up as one of my many aliases, have a good time, and not have to worry about pre-arranging anything. I could play my way, or if I wasn't hosting and the person running the game thought it should be played differently, leave. On good terms. Without being yelled at. And end up playing a game with the same people with me hosting and not having an issue.
This did not come from a single game. This was just the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. The community has made BZ2 more of a chore to me than anything else, and I am sick of it. I get much more enjoyment out of other games right now, even when I do run into pricks in them. Mainly because I don't run into pricks every time I play like I seem to in BZ2.
Why should I continue to support something that, due to the way I am treated whenever I play, is no longer fun for me? Can you give me any reason whatsoever?
What is their IP? There is nothing ethically wrong with making their IP public, especially since it can be gleaned from a simple /iplist or netstat command. Some vets keep an iplist of all the players so they know who is trying to cloak, AV their servers, or cause any other sort of mischief.
There is a large amount of people trading Ideas and information on this site and getting help to make battlezone a even better game.
Mod developers and map makers are using the site to post their ideas, mods, maps, help and many other aspects to. New objects and ideas are being spread around and people are talking to each other building up the community and making battlezone better. I do not know about other people but I am sure that almost everyone involved with battlezone will click on this site to check on what is going on, I always check the "Who's online" and it is always active. I am even sure the original makers of the game come here to see how things are progressing. Like I said this is the HUB for anything battlezone and very important. The amount of posts on this topic in a short time should already tell you this.
Also future developments in the game might be hampered as there is no posting for battlezone 1.3 or 1.4. GSH will have no place to update anything and am I sure he will disappear, and any other outstanding people that use this site to keep things rolling. THIS GAME IS NOT DEAD UNTILL IT IS BUIED 800FT UNDER.
I do not play much online games, and from what I can see, it's just the online issue that is causing problems, it might be the fact that there is just a few trouble makers out there that are not old enough to play properly.
Also, correct me if I am wrong, the site seems to be working well by it's self, I do not know if you have to do any matence on it or anything, it's just a database that people add and expand, until the server blows up or some upgrade is needed. And from what I can see everyone on the form has been behaving themselves and things have been going good. Why change that.
It seems like you have been having a bad day at home, then some as***e online just made you day. Maybe later you will feel better and decide that this is a little harsh.
Also, whats the point in doing this, it's not going to teach the little git anything and only punishing the good community members that are trying to do something. and it wont make you feel better. it will do absolutely nothing.
Shane
Actually the 1.3 dev forum was the "one" exception.
And, Shane is correct. That one reason I can give you, the one thing that has kept BZ2 alive so this long, is the community.
These forums help spearhead the collective effort to make this a better game, and keep it going. This is the "primary" BZ2 forums.
Cutting off the ability to make new threads/register here publicly only greatly hurts the BZ2 Community.
:(
You'll get people like this in BZ2, actually in any game.
I will guarantee that not everyone is like that who plays. Try again, your experience will be better with different people. That guy was a newb who can't take no for an answer.
Try again. :-)
Quote from: CmptrWz on August 25, 2008, 02:58:10 PM
Every time I have popped into someone else's game, or started one up myself, in the past YEAR, if not longer, I have either had to deal with people being pricks because I showed up as "CmptrWz" or have dealt with people being pricks because I did NOT show up as "CmptrWz".
You think you are alone??
Every single one of us has the same damn problem with the low-lifes who ruin our multiplayer games.
I have devoted over a year of my life to this game, made a full scale mod and played a great many multiplayer games.
I AM STILL HERE!! The community are all still here. Everyone else puts up with the rubbish we sometimes get because we get a greater enjoyment out of modding and playing the game.
I really don't want to blame you CmptrWz for this, because I know that you have devoted far longer to this site and game that I have. But who can I blame?? A single idiot who happened to join your game? You just got unlucky that one day.
You hit the pokies and lost twenty bucks so you get angry and go and attack your friends with a baseball bat.
The reason to keep the forum alive maybe, is to help us - the ones who still enjoy this truly unique game. Even if you don't enjoy it anymore there are heaps of us who still do and always will.
And by the way... I am a very nice Australian.
Wz, they probably see your IP in the map description area and target you.
Easiest way to thwart them is to add their IP's to your ban list in LocalPrefs.ini (post them, like ZA says) . :mrgreen:
And just PM us when you want to have a game. :-)
"hit the pokies"? :?
:|
:lol:
Only problem with you Aussies is your ping.... Heh, I bet you say the same thing about us. :lol:
Of course I do.
Problems with being an Aussie gamer:
Only 2 or 3 Aus servers with low ping.
5 or 6 Euro servers with moderate ping.
20 US servers with high ping.
And hitting the pokies is like this:
(http://www.roslynoxley9.com.au/images/galleries/Zahalka_Leisureland/043.jpg)
I remember me and my brother where playing a death match game with the map Void, It was really something, we had lots of people in it and of course a few noobs who just took the p**s. It gave me great satisfaction in sniping them. If they annoy you in the game, take it out on them... They will soon leave or behave themselves.
and well said bigbadbogie.
P.S What about UK servers? LOL
Shane
Wow, I timed my return right, didn't I?
Coincidence really - I got crap too, but most likely not because of who I am - but because I freaking suck now! Heh.
Anyway, yeah come on Wz, its been said so many times in this thread; I'm not going to repeat whats been said.
Now lets have some mother *Ammo*ing Whiskey :-D
I won't reveal the person's name, IP address(es), or forum account in this case, as this was merely the latest of a YEAR'S worth of crap I have gotten whenever I have gone to play. And my IP changed this morning, to an entirely different class A, so I doubt they knew it was me.
And yes, they have a forum account here and have logged into it somewhat recently. It is even a fairly old account. They have posted from both IP addresses they joined my game with today, and one of them is their most recently logged in as IP. Their username also matches the second name they used when joining, and the email address they mailed me with (origin of the email was one of the two IPs) matches their forum account's email address.
If they want to fess up I won't stop them, but I am not going to sick the community on them myself.
As for BZ2 itself, I was getting tired of it a while back. If it were not for 1.3 then I would have shut down BZU a while ago, 100%. I had hopes that the
******s would stay in 1.2 and the better, more civilized players would play in 1.3. Instead it seems that all 1.3 did was make it impossible to play a good game without pre-arranging it. At least from what I have seen.
The only times I had fun was when I was bug-hunting, and that was at least partially because of some of the absurd things that were being done to try and reproduce things.
In fact, one of the only reasons I didn't just turn the site off today was so that those that DO still believe in the community would at least have a warning period. I don't hate the community, I just don't want anything to do with it anymore, do not intend to contribute to it anymore, and am moving on to other things that I DO enjoy at this point.
If there is one thing I do know about this community it is that it will continue, regardless of whether or not BZU is a part of it. On the other hand, I also know that BZU is one of the last grouping points for the BZ2 community, and that it going away may be the final death fracture.
Thus, for those that do still care about the community (because by now you should notice that for the most part I don't now), I will at least make an offer. Consider it a fund raiser of sorts, if you want.
In the next two weeks (from today until the end of the day on Monday, September 8th, Eastern United States Time, giving a little over a week technically) I will count all donations sent to BZScrap. For the following total amounts I will do the following things.
$0 - Whatever the hell I want. Nobody cared enough to send a measly $5 total, why should I care enough to do anything for them?
$5 - Put up a page of links to other BZ/BZ2 related sites on the BZU homepage, turning off the "send people to the forum" redirector for http://www.bzuniverse.com in the process
$15 - Same for $5, but I will promise to not delete the forum in the process, merely make it static
$50 - Same as for $5, but I will re-open the forum for new topics again
$75 - Same as for $50, but I will even turn on signatures. Yes, I read that topic asking for them back, consider this my answer.
$100 - Same as for $75, but I will even give the pseduo-admins full admin rights, so they can make decisions like whether or not to turn on various features or not in the future
$200 - Re-open the forum, make the pseudo-admins full admins, AND set up a mediawiki install tied to the forum to replace the rest of BZU, so that actual content can be put back in by the community - Current level as of last update by myself
$500 - See $200, add in significant amounts of wondering WTF is up with this, and promise to work on MM5 again. Because that isn't covered above and right now I have stopped working on it.
I will even try to remember to update a running tally here, so that people can see how far along things are.
If you don't like any of the above, tough luck. That is what I am offering, take it or leave it.
Offers to just plain BUY bzuniverse.com from me to do what one wants with it may be made via PM, should anyone want to do so. The forum, backup thereof, hosting, etc. will not be included should someone do so. Transfer will only occur if I like the terms offered to me and the donation meter has not hit the $50 mark at the end of the day on the 8th. The static copy of the forum would be moved to a subdomain of one of my other domains, perhaps BZScrap, assuming donations have reached the $15 mark. The page of links offer will become null and void in this case, as I won't have control over the domain to keep it there.
Don't let some sad git get you down CmptrWz. just ban him.
This is my favourite web site I come here every day, and its a crucial element in my plans to take over and purify the Universe...
Quote from: Raven on August 25, 2008, 03:58:55 PM
Wow, I timed my return right, didn't I?
Coincidence really - I got crap too, but most likely not because of who I am - but because I freaking suck now! Heh.
Anyway, yeah come on Wz, its been said so many times in this thread; I'm not going to repeat whats been said.
Now lets have some mother *Ammo*ing Whiskey :-D
YES, YOU DID!
I thought the good times where coming back, then this c**p happened!
What a welcome.
Sorry this happened Raven, Can't tempt fate!
I think I need to speak to GOD, to put this right!! Now where is my bible? Oops, I do not have one.... Grrrrrrrrrr..... Have to talk to the scions then... Maybe they can get a little Bio-Metal to CmptrWz that might make him better :)
I guess we all better start a revolution on the forms hehe
Shane
oh sh**! i don't have a paypal account.... i'll have to pay my brother to get this site up...
QuoteAnd yes, they have a forum account here and have logged into it somewhat recently.
SEEK LOCATE EXTERMINATE!Oh go on give us a little clue...
I am 17 years old.
I would gladly give you the $500.
The only credit card I have has about $3000 on it (AUD).
But the problem is that my parents wont let me touch it (because they know I would waste it on junk).
Gave all I can afford to at this time.
$15
Never done paypal before, Did I do it right?
CmptrWz- If i could touch my account i would give you $1000.00 because that's all i have saved up...
Money Money Money, You sould have a donate thing here with a meter or something for how much money is needed and what it is at now.
Anyway, I gave a bunch of cash.... Hope it helps.
I give action and not just talk......
Shane
Well, seems at least two people care more than just screaming at me to say I am wrong. Up to $40 now, already, or $37.98 after fees. Thus, so far we are at "will put a links page up, and not delete the forum"
If it were up to me, I would have given u 100 out of my bank account.
But I need to save up for things myself, like a car, or to get running water in my home again, or to get the gas back on in my home again.
I am sure there are other people out there that can dig into there pockets and help out, Would have given more but paypall would not let me change, I''ll add more at the end of the week when I get paid from work ;) But I would like to know if more people will donate!
Use bzscrap to donete here!.
Shane
Wait till tonite, I will convince my parents to let me setup a paypal account and use my card, then I will give you a couple of hundred... depending on what has already been given I will make up what is left of the $500.
Can paypal change Aussie dollars to American??
good luck convincing your parents.
I just made a paypal, it was uber easy? All you need is an email...kool
No water or gas...but I have internet! :lol:
Wz, the reason some people target you might be that if they can annoy you enough to shut down BZU, then 1.3 development would probably cease and they would win.
Or maybe they're just spoiled dumb kids. Or both.
Quote from: General BlackDragon on August 25, 2008, 04:30:19 PM
good luck convincing your parents.
It's not like they actually have that much of a choice anyway. :-P
$90, $86.23 after fees
Out of curiosity what is with the large number of free BZ sites that have sprung up and are grabbing at members? Greenheart and I bought domains and I pay for web space (GH is w/ OM). I can't imagine the load CmptrWz deals with though.
I'll see if I can convince the paypal using member of the family to let me hand em some cash and have em donate, but they aren't very... nice.
The Supreme Dalek, authorised me to hack into paypal and appear to make a donation of $20...Daleks don't seem to understand money. :-o
I am already dumping many hundreds into my site, combined with school just starting back up, I have utterly no money, else I would donate some...
I could donate some other things though, you need a few more terabytes of bandwidth?
Also, do we not already have a wiki at modwiki.bzuniverse.com (http://modwiki.bzuniverse.com/index.php/Main_Page), at least that is my bookmark that is right next to the bookmark here...
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$110, $105.15 after fees
As for bandwidth, that is not currently an issue. I run the server for much more than just BZU/BZScrap at this point anyway.
I worship the Supreme Dalek!!!!!!!!
Just wondering CmptrWz, what will the money be used for...
Initially, it will go directly into paying the next server bill. After that is covered, paying off my debts. I have a few. Nothing serious, granted, and I would be able to pay them off anyway without doing this, but this will speed things up a little.
And in case nobody noticed, as I have been updating the tally I have been turning things on again. Like posting. Signatures. That kind of thing. Let me know if I left something broken that should be on at this point.
If not bandwidth, storage space? Mirror? Some code written?
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If I need more storage space on the server I will delete some of the gigs of crap I leave sitting around, and I write most of my own code these days. As for mirroring, mirroring what?
@ Siggy
Not too big?
And thanks to everyone who has donated. Still bugging my family's paypal user.
BY THE GODS.....
Quote from: CmptrWz on August 25, 2008, 05:26:25 PM
If I need more storage space on the server I will delete some of the gigs of crap I leave sitting around, and I write most of my own code these days. As for mirroring, mirroring what?
Anything else then that I am capable of giving?
And yes, that is big...
And going with the theme: By the gods, what happened to my avatar, it is blown up from 75x75 to 128x128...
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Old avatar limits off. SMF does horrid things to off site avatars. I had to add buffers on either side of mine to make it keep aspect ratio.
If limits were off, then it would not touch my size, I think someone enforced a size, much too big too...
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I don't tell the forum software to make things bigger, at least on avatars. Just smaller if they are too big. I keep the limits there personally due to someone who tried a 640x480 avatar. Externally hosted avatars may be subject to HTML-based resizing, not sure.
As for what you can give Overmind, perhaps if the total hits $200 you can give time helping to look over the wiki.
I already manage two other mediawiki's, not a biggie.
As for your sig Nielk1, you should probably change your image tag to [img height=68]http://www.bzcomplex.com/images/siggy.jpg[/img]
This looks better: (http://www.bzcomplex.com/images/siggy.jpg)
Although I do not see the point in the button looking things if they are not individually clickable...
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Luckyfoot/JS does wonders with my wiki, so if you get one I suggest making him a sysop (wiki moderator).
EDIT2: LF/JS also monitors the Battlezone II page on Wikipedia.
EDIT: OM, that's tiny, and they ARE buttons if you are actually on my site, or can I map them in SMF.
EDIT3: Now BBB's Siggy is huge.
Yea, his is huge as well, any chance of toning it down BBB. I can do it in greasemonkey easily, but if I think it is big, surely others do as well.
As for your Nielk1, they are not buttons here, and yes you can make them as such, but while they are not then you may think of making a smaller version without them. :)
As for money, I can either give $104 (as that is what is left on my card), or I can eat for the next two weeks. Oddly enough I am actually thinking of paypal'ing it, except one slight problem, anytime I try to use a credit card on paypal they steal $1 from me, reason being is they need to make sure it is 'valid' by taking a dollar off, then they put a dollar back, but debiting is not supported on this card, so they steal a dollar, but never put it back... those bastards (and I never say that...), hence I will not use them.
Any game or something on Steam you want bought, I could always just do that...
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I only made it big so people could see it. Any smaller and it is hard to make out.
Oddly enough, I have a steam account now, but most of what I was planning on buying I already have. Quick look at some of the things available leads me to the Civilization IV Complete Pack or Bioshock, both look interesting. If you want to verify my steam account send me a PM. If you have any other recommendations you could send them my way too. If it is in the Valve Complete Pack don't bother, I have that.
Oh good god I will get you the Civ4 pack as long as we play. :)
Look at my community page (same name as here, OvermindDL1, due note, that is not me account name so you cannot add it as a friend, but on my community page just click add friend) to see what I have (and add me as a friend so I can gift stuff over). I bought Civ4 well before it was on steam, been trying to pawn it off on someone so I can get the valve version, I hate dealing with CD's (well, virtual cd's in this case, I have not used my disk drive in over a year now, I *hate* disks).
I have sunk so much money in software available on Source,... probably over $1k now... almost makes me feel sick... well, until I notice I got most of it in packs thus incredibly cheap, my friends play most of my stuff over here, I am not usually much of a game player, but I like to set my friends up well. :)
As for Bioshock, I *HATE* it. I got the CD version (last CD based game I have bought), says I cannot install it because my disk is not an original authentic disk (gull dang freaking yes it is, I can supply pictures, box, anything), so I go through the install, it installs it, it verifies disk, says you suck, then uninstalls the 10 minutes worth of installing stuff it installed. I hate that publisher, I will never get anything from them again, even if on Steam...
Freaking idiots who put on that copy protection need to be hung from their testicles...
Sorry... I really hate those idiots... Still have not been able to play the game, I just need to download the pirated version and get it over with...
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Feel free to add Nielk1 to your Steam friends list, if you want to that is. :wink:
I love Gmod but it's full of Mingebags.
Wow, i was away at school this entire time.......... BZU almost ended and i wasnt here to help.... :-(
Do I need to start worrying that my next visit to the forums will be my last?
Not anymore thanks to a heap of kind donations.
I wonder why this kindof response didn't happen the first time when wz moved servers?
PS: Yay I got siggy AND avatar back to looking right. (I think)
I am sure more Donations will keep CmptrWz happy for... Say... 5 years ;)
and he's still counting untill 8th sept ;)
Shane
See, avatar's like Warfreaks need to cause him to be banned for a day or two, while being moved to a usergroup that does not support avatar's, at least that is what I would do on my forum. :P
307px × 306px is way too freakin big you know. :P
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Fixed....... and its not my fault this forum had Auto resizing when i placed the pic in as an avatar..... :-P
Quote from: shane ward on August 25, 2008, 04:04:33 PM
YES, YOU DID!
I thought the good times where coming back, then this c**p happened!
What a welcome.
Sorry this happened Raven, Can't tempt fate!
I think I need to speak to GOD, to put this right!! Now where is my bible? Oops, I do not have one.... Grrrrrrrrrr..... Have to talk to the scions then... Maybe they can get a little Bio-Metal to CmptrWz that might make him better :)
I guess we all better start a revolution on the forms hehe
Shane
I have a bible but never had time to read it. And hoorah for not puting forums down. Still have 3 pages to read.
Wz although youve had bad experience and like pb31.3 better then 1.2 i consider you a good player. Ill try hosting in 10 minutes for anyone willing to join. I hate being alone. Anyone with a ping higher then 300 well you might go bye bye.
I could use some major help in current game even if its Cmptrwz you might pick up some skill heh. Need help pronto.
I hate living in GMT I never see ANY games on 1.3... And I can't host currently.
Sorry CmptrWz I couldn't get my credit card.
I'll keep trying.
Cmptrwz,
I donated $100 dollars about a couple of months ago when you reformatted the forum. I've just sent you another $80 dollars. Hope this helps. I understand your frustration.
Make sure you add the amount I 'donated' as well. :P
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At work right now, don't feel like logging into paypal to check amounts. Will do so in a few hours from home.
As for what you 'donated' Overmind, I figure that since it wasn't a 'cash' donation I will count it for around half of face value. That work for ya?
As long as you join in soon and often enough. :P
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Which game, OM?
CmptrWz thanks for this site, It is the main hub for bz2 community. I know we all benefit from it being up.
I donated a little, hope it helps.
Gave $x. :)
Current donation counts put things at $325/312.71. Add in some for Overmind's not-quite-a-donation donation and we are up to $355/342.71.
The wiki will most likely not go up today, though. That is a tad more complicated than just hitting a couple of links.
Wow.. What a great support from everyone, I am sure CmptrWz did not expect this kind of response. Don't spend the money all at once ;)
Like I said, I will give more by the end of the week and also hope CmptrWz grant me a request, I will PM when the time arrives.
anyway nice to see a great support for this. Well done everyone.
Shane
Every little bit helps, please give a little! See if we can make it to that $500 mark so CmptrWz says WTF.
Quote from: Feared_1 on August 27, 2008, 11:45:20 AM
Every little bit helps, please give a little! See if we can make it to that $500 mark so CmptrWz says WTF.
lol. After my current client 5% of earnigs will go to this site.
ill do my best, i only just strayed onto this topic and im sorry for youre troubles CmptrWz. i remember playing against a prat known as play_isdf. and it ruined my game.
unfortunately, i still dont even know how to ban certain addresses but ill learn.
if i hadnt washed my latest pay cheque id donate a few for you. i dont know how paypal works but it would be in GBP from this end, maybe it will convert it when it sends it to you?
if i can persuade my lousy boss to re-write those cheques instead of stick them on next months, ill donate.
also, i didnt expect this kind of fast response from the community. its nice to know youre all as keen as i am to keep the site alive. thanks =]
oh an CmptrWz, join me in a game at some point.
You can ban IP's by adding enties to LocalPrefs.ini or LocalPrefs_bzone.ini:
// Bans for specified addresses. To use these, you must fill in the
// address (replacing the "aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/eee"), and uncomment it
// (remove the // from the start of it). No support is currently
// present for unbanning while BZ2 is running. Items in the following
// list may be commented out; subsequent items will be read. More IPs
// may be bannable that there are lines here; the exact number is
// undisclosed.
//
// The /eee component is a netmask of how many bits of the first part
// are checked. If it is 32 (default), the IP must match exactly. If
// it is 24, it is as if the 'ddd' component was wildcarded -- some
// would write 'aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/24' as 'aaa.bbb.ccc.*'. If the netmask
// is 0 (not recommended), it'll block every IP (not recommended).
BanIP1 = "###.###.###.###/32"
BanIP2 = "###.##.###.###/32"
it finding the IP thats the problem for me. i have one banned one in there already because he was pratting about. and i have no hesitation mentioning him here since he was banned from these forums. (so he told me, with a sense of pride on his face. what IS IT with some people?!?!)
SeanTheGreat. how ironic
Sorry CmptrWz, but my card was only a withdrawl card and isn't compatible with paypal.
Don't f**king start on that guy. We have a history and most other people know him a little too well.
Funnily enough he is just under a year younger than me I think, it seems he still hasn't grown up and that I still retain over 10 years more maturity.
I thought you were sticking up for him then, until i re-read. i wont go on, but evem GSH added him a a slashed out ban to the gameprefs.ini file in PB4.
i didnt let him test out my starship recycler variant. apparently he tested SRV etc, but like my mod i wanted to complete it on my own. i think i share that with BBB.
then of course, he starts tearing my stuff apart. i give him a modified sabre and he starts taking me out. at the time i was a bit of a noobist as well, so wasnt happy. after that i decided to stay away from those hostile MP games. but if anyone wants a friendly one, join me when i can be bothered to host.
There aren't words to dsecribe him. Simple as that.
Quote from: bigbadbogie on August 27, 2008, 03:52:09 PM
Sorry CmptrWz, but my card was only a withdrawl card and isn't compatible with paypal.
You can use your bank to deposit money into paypal, I think -- even if you only have a debit card. But you have to speak to your bank about it.
Having a Paypal account linked to your bank account is nice. Not only can you send money, but you can also recieve money.
At any rate, I joined the club, sent ya some money CmptrWz.
yay! What are we at now?
PS: Hi sonic! havnt seen u on msn in a while :(
Quote from: General BlackDragon on August 28, 2008, 10:36:14 AM
PS: Hi sonic! havnt seen u on msn in a while :(
I've switched to a Jabber network out of frustration with MSN. I only sign on to MSN every so often now.
Last I checked:
1 - Since my last update no additional has come in (Sonic was a tad lax in reporting his donation here, it is already in the total)
2 - Neither myself nor Sonic use MSN anymore. I have an XMPP server that we use, lot less trouble. Was thinking about setting up a bzuniverse variant of the server, but I am not sure. While it would only take me a short amount of time I don't know if anyone would care. That and it would make it easier for people to find me on IM......
3 - DDT Sonic
Quote from: CmptrWz on August 28, 2008, 02:01:07 PM
Last I checked:
1 - Since my last update no additional has come in (Sonic was a tad lax in reporting his donation here, it is already in the total)
2 - Neither myself nor Sonic use MSN anymore. I have an XMPP server that we use, lot less trouble. Was thinking about setting up a bzuniverse variant of the server, but I am not sure. While it would only take me a short amount of time I don't know if anyone would care. That and it would make it easier for people to find me on IM......
3 - DDT Sonic
DDT?
Is that what yall are talking about?
http://www.jabber.org/node/472
Quote from: CmptrWz on August 28, 2008, 02:01:07 PM
Was thinking about setting up a bzuniverse variant of the server, but I am not sure. While it would only take me a short amount of time I don't know if anyone would care. That and it would make it easier for people to find me on IM......
by this, do you mean an instant messenger built into BZU or something along those lines? not sure i fully understand.
DDT - Don't do That, referring to I had typed my post when he submitted his.
As for the IM thing, it would be username@bzuniverse.com XMPP addresses. If I were to set it up.
What jabber network? Is it open to registrations?
And I like Pidgin, jabber, msn, whatever, it all works the same. :)
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As I said I have given more money about $100, little early but I get paid soon anyway :P
Thats all I can give. Hope it helps in some way.
I'll send you a PM CmptrWz.
$427/410.43. Add in some for Overmind's not-quite-a-donation donation and we are up to $457/440.43.
As for the network, I set up my own server. Registrations can be obtained for the server in question by getting me, Sonic, or Kalshion to give one on our respective domains, or by registering at one of my other site's forums. That site's XMPP net is directly tied to forum accounts.
I gave 50. Hope this not only blows cmptrwz's mind but let's him know that the bad eggs are way over shadowed by us more sophisticated and sociable people. Windy and I play 1.3pb3 G66 almost every night at Central time 7pm through 10pm. Come join us for some Gorgon slapping, Walker blasting mpi's whenever you get a chance.
Yea, definitely getting close if not exceeding the "WTF" point now. :P
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Quote from: GENERAL MANSON* on August 28, 2008, 02:03:29 PM
DDT?
There is DDT, DDTE, IWDT, NYWNDT...
I believe our highest was 6 rounds of that, saying the exact same thing at roughly the same time...Of course, I thinkt he most impresive was back when CmptrWz and I posted at the EXACT same time. The server we were posting too couldn't handle it and had to delete one of our posts for sanity sakes.
you know, i really dont think those morons Mr Wz said about are from this forum...
out of curiosity, has anyone scouted other forums for who the pillock might be?
You actually might want to thank 'play_isdf', Wz :lol: (although that pilot name is probably on all BZ2 pilot lists).
i dunno, can money buy happiness?
well not on its own, but its a sodding good start!
It gives you freedom, and, when you have freedom, that's what makes you happy. :-)
Money can buy most of the things that are known to be a source of happiness. (I wont list them)
However the knowledge that you "bought" them may well have a counter productive effect as it will often imply that those things have a value far lower than you hoped for. That is why the "free" stuff is usually of far greater value in this respect.
I'm sure they're not from this forum. What is happening is this game is getting passed down to kids in homes where the father rants and raves about this game, but doesn't really play it as much anymore. The kids are juvenile and so act as such. Most don't know about this forum. Sean is one of them I think. I remember when he first showed up on the scene. He would join my G66 mpi's and start blowing me away and laughing. I tried to be nice, but eventually started locking my games. Now it's someone named "ark" that joins and wants to play Skywars on 1.3pb3, and I usually play G66. He's always trying to get me to change the map to a Skywars map during the middle of a nice G66 game. If he don't get his way, he'll join and lose his ship right away and ask for another, when he don't get it he'll just start shooting everyone.
I've always despised Sean, I gave him 4 chances before. Permaban FTW. Not to mention he steals peoples assets and says he made them.
As for Ark, thats what the nice new /ban command is for as soon as he enters. Or IP ban him. (IP please?)
Any updates on donations?
Quote from: Raven on August 30, 2008, 07:55:32 AM
I've always despised Sean, I gave him 4 chances before. Permaban FTW. Not to mention he steals peoples assets and says he made them.
Sean is in my ip ban listing for inducing extremly bad lag ingame on purpose & also attempted to get the game to resync repeatedly by leaving & rejoining the session repeatedly. Sean Admitted in IRC that he was inducing lag on purpose.
Why the hell would he even bother??
Its not like its fun or anything...
Because he is a pathetic child who takes pleasure in ruining things, just for the f*ck of it.
I lost his IP a long time ago, please?
68.3.228.114/24
Its in gamePrefs.ini.
Yes it is. With an IP ban line that can be enacted whenever you want.
VSMIT.
Raven youre such an angry person lol!
You can use /ban <nick> to ban someone while in-game.
I love /ban its amazing xD
Well you weren't around for the large part of his reign of terror. Thats why he makes me angry :lol:
Oh he's already banned? LOL!
haha fair play...
and he isnt banned by default, BUT, hes got himself in the changelog along with his IP address. its commented out in gameprefs, but i just removed them.
im glad i never gave him my recy variant. i had a feeling most of that would have ended up as 'claiming they were his models'
Don't you have to put it into locaprefs? I thought ANY change to gameprefs will cause bad assets.
All he has to do is keep his computer offline for 1 or 2 days and his IP company will assign him a new IP and this little list everyone is talking about will become ussless. Just tell him to grow up if he has not done so allready....
Anyway, any note on the tally?
Holy hell! I go on vacation for 10 days and BZU once again ALMOST dies and then comes back from the dead!
This happened last time I left for a bit too...I need to stop taking breaks... :roll:
Also, is everyone just purposefully censoring their words or what, because even "crap" gets censored on my end, and I cannot find the setting to turn it off...
And siggies are back? SWEET!
EDIT: HOLY FRIK! Avatar resizing must be turned off...
I see the word "crap"...
Wonder if its a forced age based thing, I may have screwed it up by being 1007 years old :P
Quote from: shane ward on August 31, 2008, 06:09:25 PM
All he has to do is keep his computer offline for 1 or 2 days and his IP company will assign him a new IP and this little list everyone is talking about will become ussless. Just tell him to grow up if he has not done so allready....
Anyway, any note on the tally?
This is only true for about 10% of internet users. A lot of ISPs who assign dynamic IP's will assign them within a certain range, so if a guy were to get his IP address re-assigned, it would most likely be a similar one to the old IP -- Ie: 218.331.21.8 might get reassigned to 218.331.21.211. In most cases you have to block an entire range of IPs (218.331.21.*) or even something like (218.331.20-22.*)
Secondly, telling people to grow up is not gonna work. You obviously havent had much experience with people.
Quote from: Zero Angel on August 31, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Secondly, telling people to grow up is not gonna work. You obviously havent had much experience with people.
There is allways the hope it can work.
Quote from: Steeveeo on August 31, 2008, 08:01:36 PM
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Fixed.
Quote from: Zero Angel on August 31, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
This is only true for about 10% of internet users. A lot of ISPs who assign dynamic IP's will assign them within a certain range, so if a guy were to get his IP address re-assigned, it would most likely be a similar one to the old IP -- Ie: 218.331.21.8 might get reassigned to 218.331.21.211. In most cases you have to block an entire range of IPs (218.331.21.*) or even something like (218.331.20-22.*)
Secondly, telling people to grow up is not gonna work. You obviously havent had much experience with people.
Depends on the ISP. My ISP has been known to jump me to different class A addresses, sometimes even C addresses before. I can also force change my IP at will if I so desire. Doing so seems to be a random thing...sometimes I get an address within my current block, sometimes as I mention, I jump to a class C, etc.
My ISP does odd things...
Quote from: Sonic on September 01, 2008, 04:40:11 PM
Fixed.
Thanks.
Heh, I was gunna make myself a new one soon here but I didnt have any inspiration :P
might there be a mark to get the OT fourm back up? That used to be my jimmyr.com
At work, for the record.
You want an OT back, I say get it up to $1000. Because I am a greedy bastard.
Or, you know, convince someone else.
Seeing as the SubAdmins are to become full Admins.
Are you going to tell us if someone buys the forums from you directly so people aren't paying for nothing? :P
To quote myself, chopping out a couple of blocks:
Quote from: CmptrWz on August 25, 2008, 04:03:33 PMOffers to just plain BUY bzuniverse.com from me... Transfer will only occur if I like the terms offered to me and the donation meter has not hit the $50 mark at the end of the day on the 8th.
Alrighty, thanks.
I forget, was there a particular name the OT Forum had or was it simply "Off Topic". I keep thinking it had a fancy name.
Overdrive Terminal?
That's what it was GBD.
Yep, that was it. Nice place to put not-so-ontopic stuff.
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isnt there a 'scrap pit' on bz2md or whatever? for all those off-topic things?
No. The salvage board, if I remember correctly, was for threads that were partially lost in a move or an attack or something. Not OT.
VSMIT.
wups.. never mind
I've recreated the OT Forum...
Don't make me regret it.
out of curiosity... for a kind of rules and regulatons type reply...
why would you?
Off topic boards can lead to bad things. Won't mention what they are, but it does happen sometimes. Not here, usually.
VSMIT.
On all the forums I frequent the OT board is either ignored or is filled with random stuff, but practically never do I see it get out of hand.
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I find it a great place to move things that don't fit.
did we meet our goal of 500 dollars?
ONE MORE DAY... lets see if we can do it!
Quote from: Axeminister on September 07, 2008, 11:48:29 AM
did we meet our goal of 500 dollars?
from what I can calculate from the posts I think the tally is up to $507 or 490 including costs.
If he wants to be good, he can say we did it up to $507, If he wants to be bad, We have $10 to go... ;)
I have given all I can, my wife allready found out! I am dead meat :( and I earn it!
grrrrrrr
Shane
Posts other people report and my reports are not always in order. Sometimes I post totals before people post how much they donated.
That said, and me being a minor stickler, and assuming a single Echeck goes through that has not cleared yet, and assuming an approximate value for fees on said Echeck, I am calling the current tally at $498.
You all know the "# ____ short of a full ____" sayings?
Well we're "Two Dollars short of a full 'WTF'!" :P
(Ok, shut up, they cant all be winners)
I stand corrected....... The card started getting charged for it still having the fund after so long...... so the balance went null and void ($0). :|
Ok so I haven't been around as much as you guys. Being disabled has it problems. Like not being able to sit up at my computer desk for more than a hour at a time. I can't wait to be able to purchase that zero gravity chair from bed bath and beyond. But that is later.
You guys have helped me out with a lot of my dumb questions over the past few years. I just sent a letter to Steve asking him how to correctly install BZ2. And all of it upgrades and plug-ins. But I just can't stand the thought that this web site will shut down. Where will I go to ask dumb questions?
So how do I donate? I have a PayPal account. I can let go of a 20. I know it's not much. But I would like to help.
CmptrWz, we're all expecting a nice WTF IS UP WITH THIS from you tomorrow. :)
use the link on www.bzscrap.com to donate.
dntknwhw2b: Dude, put the dough towards that chair instead and we'll be cool.
Well, I just dropped 10 more bucks on CmptrWz's lap for the site. Assuming no one has donating since than, we should have filled that nice 2 dollar gap. ;)
Good news: Sonic's additional donation and the ECheck brought the total to over $500!
Bad news: A donation pulled BACK due to a dispute 15 minutes after the ECheck cleared brought it down to just under $490. BEFORE fees.
Edit: Typo, hit 8 when I meant to hit 9.
Aww :(
should still count :P
Well, not being able to get money OUT of my paypal account while they decide if I had anything to do with said dispute is making me not count it.
Well that sucks.
Why on EARTH would something be disputed like that?!
Direct credit card donation, no paypal account, and someone contested the charge on the credit card. Why, I don't know.
Damn, could we have an extension on the deadline than, maybe someone else will chip in 10 bucks.
No extension. Don't cut it so close next time? :P
Quote from: CmptrWz on August 25, 2008, 01:58:28 PM
Today I got up, started some laundry, went to visit my insurance agent about canceling my policy with them due to switching insurance companies. They haven't been around for a couple of weeks now, and were impossible to work with for a month before that.
They weren't there. I had to call their parent company to get a human.
I come home, move some laundry around, make some code changes in MM5 to hopefully get BZ2 to run longer when it runs it (haven't seen the issue myself). For some reason I find coding relaxing. Decide to test the changes by running BZ2. Hell, why not play an actual game, I have time.
I start up a MPI on the latest public beta. No password, anyone can join, firewall should let people in. Start beating up on the CPU, but not too much, I want to go for an hour or so at least to make sure things are stable.
Ten minutes into the game someone joins. Named "playisdf". No clue who they are at this point. I wasn't playing as "CmptrWz" so I don't know if they knew who I was, doubt they did.
They ask if they can join me. That was fine. I say yes. They come in.
They ask for a Sabre. I happen to have one, I give them it.
Then they kill me, call me a n00b, and tell me to give them command. I kick them.
A moment later they come back in, apologize, and get back into the game. No sooner do I hop out of my scout to change settings in the recycler do they kill me again.
I ban them.
A few minutes later my firewall tells me that they are portscanning me. They find a few fake processes I keep running just for people who do so, and attempt to get into them. Fail, they are fakes after all, but I have a nice log of all the attacks they tried.
I resume playing, figuring I will look into it later. Being pissed I am doing great and horribly at the same time. Good at blowing stuff up, not so good at base management.
Someone else comes in, this time with an actual name. Which I am withholding. They ask if they can join me. I say yes. They come in and join me. Not longer after they ask if they can have command, I politely decline. So they kill me. I have had enough of this, I ban them too.
Not long after that I have to take care of something else, so I quit. Later, looking at things here on BZU and in my firewall logs both people appear to have most likely been the same person. Who emailed ME with my own IP saying that if I am registered on BZU I should ban myself.
I have opted not to ban them from BZU, however. They probably won't care anyway. But if people in the community are pulling crap like this, well, I don't want to be in it anymore. Every time I try to play BZ2 I like the community less and less.
BZU is now in "reply only" mode, with one exception. Registrations are no longer moderated, they are outright disabled. In the near future I will decide if BZU should go to being a static site, or just go away.
The bad apples should be banned, their IP's listed in a Suggested IP Bans post so nobody else has these experiences with them, and I feel ya bro! I'd like to see this forum continue. It is probably the same people terrorizing the entire bz community (both bz1 and 2) because they have nothing better to do with themselves. If you close this site down...they win. If they get banned and denied access they can't harass us anymore. So they'd have to find another game and another community to terrorize.
I hope to see this site continue. It is the last old school community board that these jerks haven't ruined or had shut down therefore they gain traffic to their stupid forum that's full of nothing but their lies, hacks, and bullhoot. It's not right to let them keep doing it.
Ban them! And list their IP's so everyone else can ban them too.
I assume that since we've been up for about a month and haven't heard back that things have been resolve, cmptrwz?
To my knowledge, he is currently working on getting the main section of the site up. He plans on using a wiki if I recall but I don't know if it will be publicly editable or only staff editable.
Might be a bit of a waste of bandwidth to have a wiki here, already have a fully functional one over on BZComplex. (Just needs content)
It may not be, using a Wiki as the backend to editing site pages is a great way to allow staff to edit them without needing FTP access.
Staff can't have FTP access. I won't let them, jerk that I am.
As for the wiki, Go for it. (http://www.bzuniverse.com/Main_Page) Have fun. If you actually have a logo, or outright skin, let me know.
If you think there should be additional namespaces, let me know too. Interwiki links? Let me know. Abusive behavior? Let me know. Content you don't like because you feel ONLY 1.3 or ONLY 1.2 or ONLY any other version should be represented? Let me know too, so I can ban you.
hahaha =]
legend. you strike me as a very stern being Cmptrwz... has anyone ever decribed you as a tad sarcastic too :P
by the way, that wasnt a dig...
I am stern, sarcastic, evil, serious, and nice. Sometimes all at once. Gives people a headache.
I don't get a headache from that, I just want to strangle you at times. :P
Now someone else we both know...
Odd, I got a headache while reading this thread...
:lol: