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Battlezone Universe => Overdrive Terminal => Topic started by: iron maiden on November 21, 2009, 02:24:49 PM

Poll
Question: Which is better, bass guitar or electric guitar?
Option 1: bass guitar votes: 3
Option 2: electric guitar votes: 6
Title: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 21, 2009, 02:24:49 PM
This is just sort of a thread to discuss musical instruments, songs, debate, favorite instrument, etc. I will start.

Well, yeah, I play bass guitar and am self taught. I consider myself pretty good knowing a few songs within a few months, amongst my life's constant chaos. I believe people constantly put down the bass, just because you can't play some guitar solo does not mean it is not a bad instrument. I use a Fender J bass but have my eyes set on the Nixxi Sixx and Steve Harris custom models, and a Gibson cherry-wood EB-O.

And you all? :|
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: VSMIT on November 21, 2009, 02:43:29 PM
Eeew... Fender...

Eeew... Gibson...
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 21, 2009, 03:09:57 PM
What, yahmaha makes good bases? yeah right.

What do have against Fender and Gibson?
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: Axeminister on November 21, 2009, 04:08:35 PM
Play a Standard Gibson Les Paul, Fender "Squire II" Stratocastor and an old acoustic my roomate found in the trash with a missing string. Got a Digitech RP70 digital effects processor and a Marshall "Lead 100 Mosfet" amplifier with a 4/12 Jackson cabinet. Dunlop Tortex  .88 mm picks all the way, I go through about 20 picks a week.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 21, 2009, 04:26:07 PM
Wow.................that is a lot of picks, i hardly ever play with them, not suited for bass.  love Les Paul guitar's especially the new robot model.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: VSMIT on November 21, 2009, 04:45:11 PM
There are other manufacturers than Fender and Gibson.  I personally prefer G&L.  Or EBMM's high-end stuff.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: sabrebattletank on November 21, 2009, 04:48:21 PM
I have a Takamine electric/acoustic, which I bought because "Hey, if I'm spending multiple hundreds of dollars on a guitar I might as well get one that doesn't require an amp."

It's beautiful, I love it.

I also play piano, a Knabe. Quality stuff.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 21, 2009, 04:49:09 PM

QuoteThere are other manufacturers than Fender and Gibson.  I personally prefer G&L.  Or EBMM's high-end stuff.

Granted, but they are the top dogs, and besides, as I said before, i am yet to find an efficient bass made by any other company but the two, being my bass if from Affinity does not count, it is a subdivision of Fender.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: VSMIT on November 21, 2009, 04:50:46 PM
You do know that G&L is Leo Fender's last company, right?
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 21, 2009, 04:54:25 PM
I do now, but Fender, though now owned by CBS, remains the most well known

Fender
Gibson
Yamaha
Ibanez

The "Big Four" of the guitar world, along with their subdivision's.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: TheJamsh on November 21, 2009, 04:54:58 PM
I dont play any of this... but my bands stuff always sounds ok, and they use a bit of this stuff:

Telecaster
Dean Razorback. This thing is enormous.
Line 6 Spider II/III
Ibanez bass... no idea which one. Ive never been a fan of ibanez guitars they always look so thin...
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: TheJamsh on November 21, 2009, 04:55:28 PM
Oh but... Mesa Boogie and ESP for the win.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 21, 2009, 04:56:44 PM
QuoteIbanez bass... no idea which one. Ive never been a fan of ibanez guitars they always look so thin...

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Their basses are the most soft I have ever heard, I can hardly ever hear them.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: Clavin12 on November 21, 2009, 07:01:19 PM
I personally prefer the bagpipe. :-P
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 21, 2009, 07:04:14 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......electric bagpipes? :roll:
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: Axeminister on November 21, 2009, 07:23:43 PM
Mesa Boogie amps totally rock!
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 21, 2009, 07:45:22 PM
Actually looking to get a set of pedals, preferably a heavy metal one, plug it up to my bass and see what happens.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: VSMIT on November 21, 2009, 11:46:12 PM
What kind of person uses a pedal effect on a bass?

Oh, right.  One who can't play well.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: TheJamsh on November 22, 2009, 02:59:07 AM
I know a good bass player who uses a line 6 bass pod, not exactly a pedal but it has some nifty stuff built in.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: AHadley on November 22, 2009, 05:06:49 AM
Line 6 Pod? Those things are horrible.

I'd have to say both instruments are equal. Though I don't actually have an electric guitar.

Tanglewood Liberty electric bass
Mountain accoustic (basically a yard of japanese plywood)
Crafter
Simon and Patrick (beautiful instrument)
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: TheJamsh on November 22, 2009, 05:41:33 AM
Quote from: AHadley on November 22, 2009, 05:06:49 AM
Line 6 Pod? Those things are horrible.

yeh his bass does sound like a fart, but thats probably not helped by the amp either lol
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: Dianoga4 on November 22, 2009, 07:36:42 AM
I have a Fender amp, Seagull acoustic and 2 Godin electrics. One of the Godin's is a cheap model I bought after I hadn't had a guitar for years and wanted something and didn't have much cash at the time. The other Godin is a better model that I really like and it sounds good. They are not as well known as the big names but they make some really nice stuff. When it comes to instruments anyways it's mostly personal preference. I also still have 3 different effects pedals, a multi effects, old 4 track recorder which I don't use anymore really because I got a newer interface thing (can't remember the name off the top of my head) that plugs into the computer to record straight onto the computer. With the software I can have quite a few tracks. Also a cheaper but decent recording mic. I also kick myself in the ass everyday for not playing as much as I used to when I was younger. I am very out of practice. :(
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: AHadley on November 22, 2009, 08:40:45 AM
Quote from: TheJamsh on November 22, 2009, 05:41:33 AM
yeh his bass does sound like a fart, but thats probably not helped by the amp either lol

My bass sounds like that, but that's definately the amp. It's about twice my age :lol:

I do use a pedal, but that's because it has some effects that I can't replicate any other way. My amp doesn't have drive, gain, treble or bass controls on it, nor distortion, which I do actually use for my bass.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: Axeminister on November 22, 2009, 09:33:16 AM
VSMIT: for the most part you are right, a bass sounds lik dog with effects. But I have heard some very cool jazz bass that use some effects like wah that sound super.
Dianoga4: What I plug into my pc to record is a M-Audio Fasttrack. They make many different one, mine is for single input.  Comes with a bunch of recording software, but I really only use Audacity which I heard about here at bzuniverse.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: VSMIT on November 22, 2009, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: Axeminister on November 22, 2009, 09:33:16 AM
VSMIT: for the most part you are right, a bass sounds lik dog with effects. But I have heard some very cool jazz bass that use some effects like wah that sound super.
Indeed, I should have specified.  Any effect that drastically changes the sound (e.g.: Heavy Metal, Overdrive, Synth, Flanger, etc.) sucks for bass.  Some compressors sound good.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 22, 2009, 11:33:49 AM
How does me wanting to get a heavy metal pedal mean I do not play well? I have only been playing a few months but consider myself to have some skill playing my bass. I wanted to get one, or least try one, to see what the sound differences would be when i played some songs.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: VSMIT on November 22, 2009, 11:35:22 AM
It masks the sound way too much.  By using one of those pedals, it means that you're counting on the effect to cover up how you play.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: Dianoga4 on November 22, 2009, 12:31:36 PM
I just looked and the thing I use to connect to the computer is a Tascam US-122L Audio Interface. I can have 2 mics or a mic and guitar plugged in at the same time and record them both at the same time. It came as a package with a Tascam LD-74 condenser mic which I think sounds pretty decent. The package came with Cubase LE software for recording which seemed to work pretty good. I haven't use the stuff in a while but want to get back into it and at least fool around with some recording.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 22, 2009, 12:32:48 PM
No one said i would perform for people with it, i would be sure to be well skilled in the song before doing that.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: TheJamsh on November 22, 2009, 03:48:31 PM
Bass never really needs pedals. A compressor or a good EQ if you have a particularly crap one will make it sound nice. Compression is nearly always added to bass in mix-downs, so it will improve the sound somewhat. Bass is what 'fills' all that space between guitar and kick drum, so whatever you do it will effect your bands sound a little more than you think.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 22, 2009, 07:32:50 PM
Unless your Steve Harris, then you could only play bass and the song would still rule.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: Nielk1 on November 22, 2009, 08:21:16 PM
Quote from: iron maiden on November 22, 2009, 07:32:50 PM
Unless your Steve Harris, then you could only bass and the song would still rule.

wha?
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 23, 2009, 05:03:33 PM
Iron Maiden's bassist, he is the bass God.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: VSMIT on November 23, 2009, 05:10:37 PM
Only to you.

Flea is much better.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 23, 2009, 05:29:05 PM
On the contrary, he is what got me started on bass.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Harris_%28musician%29
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: VSMIT on November 23, 2009, 05:37:03 PM
And yet my statement doesn't change.  Oh wonder of wonders!
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: sabrebattletank on November 23, 2009, 05:43:45 PM
Death has some cool bass

This song is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpfz5Vnr-_A
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 23, 2009, 06:01:58 PM
The bass does sound preety good, from what i could hear, had it turned down to low, but what is with the vocals, i could not understand what on Earth he was saying.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: AHadley on November 24, 2009, 12:48:36 AM
If the bass is too loud it can kill the song entirely. It's not meant to lead the piece, except in a few rare circumstances.

And from what I've heard of Iron Maiden and Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Fle is much better than Steve Harris.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: VSMIT on November 24, 2009, 01:37:34 AM
How long have you played bass, Iron Maiden?
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 24, 2009, 01:12:48 PM
A few months,  I know 4 songs and may be forming a band with some friends.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: VSMIT on November 24, 2009, 05:28:21 PM
Get more experience under your belt before you play in a band.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 24, 2009, 06:04:28 PM
It would not be a label band or anything of the such band, we will just be doing a few covers that I either know, or am learning the tab to. Sort of like a garage band of sorts.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: VSMIT on November 24, 2009, 08:15:03 PM
I wasn't talking about only a label band or any kind of well-known group.  I was talking about a band in general.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: sabrebattletank on November 25, 2009, 12:01:24 AM
Psh. Get together with a couple of your friends and play. Have some 3-hour jam sessions to 12 bar blues. That's how you get better, by just playing.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: AHadley on November 25, 2009, 03:53:52 AM
I started when my first band was short a bassist - so I switched over to it and started learning.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: iron maiden on November 25, 2009, 11:09:52 AM
Which is why I am joining this band, my friend who is the drummer has a brother who plays bass, but could not get his act together. When my friend learned that I play, he asked if I would like to join and I agreed, simple as that, if I fail, I fail, depends where apple falls.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: DrummaDude on December 09, 2009, 04:40:15 PM
I've been playing drums for over a decade. Used to play piano for several years. Playing guitar for 2 years now. Played cello last year. Picked up bass this year. Will pick up violin and vocals in the future (hopefully soon).

Music is huge in my life. It's one of my biggest passions, and it's also my part time job.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: TheJamsh on December 09, 2009, 05:14:50 PM
On a note, finished tracking drums for our EP today. Not the tightest i have ever done but good enough.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: technoid on December 09, 2009, 05:29:59 PM
I used to play the brass basses, i.e. baritone, tuba, Sousaphone (basically a tuba) and Rhodes bass keyboard in jr high and high school.  That's 6 years in band, looong ago in a galaxy far away.  Even got a J.P. Sousa award for the high school band geek tenure. 

Nowadays I dabble in keyboards, vocals, softsynths (VSTi's, SF's, MIDI, etc), sample trackers and DAW's (record/mix), though it's been awhile since I've done those too, a bit rusty right now.  Might be assisting as a stand-in sound tech (mixer) for a band this New Years Eve, if I'm not busy. 
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: sabrebattletank on December 10, 2009, 02:52:23 PM
I used to play baritone (euphonium). Epic win.
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: technoid on December 10, 2009, 06:33:33 PM
Quote from: sabrebattletank on December 10, 2009, 02:52:23 PM
I used to play baritone (euphonium). Epic win.

Technically they are 2 different instruments (bore construct), but for the purposes of playing technique (valves, pistons, fingers, embouchure), they are somewhat similar.  The baritone I used in school was special, it was dented at the bell and the first round.   :oops:

Aarghh, flashes of the slow dull numbing pain of the Sousaphone sitting on my left shoulder during marches just came back to haunt me. 
Title: Re: musical instruments
Post by: sabrebattletank on December 10, 2009, 07:47:32 PM
I know, I only put euphonium in parentheses to differentiate it from the baritone sax, which is what some people think stand-alone "baritone" means.