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Battlezone Universe => Archive Vault => Public 1.3 Beta Archive => Topic started by: Jabbapop on March 25, 2004, 11:23:09 PM

Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Jabbapop on March 25, 2004, 11:23:09 PM
In all the previous patches I can't join any games because I get auto kicked for not returning a ping. I think my school's network disables the ctcp ping port. Now in the 1.3 version of the patch, it just gives me a flat out connection refused. I know that other internet games work fine, however, such as Q3 engine and Unreal engine games. Also, on a side note, I seem to be still banned from the in game irc room (+b). Would it at all possible to unban me?
and why is this post being kept deleted?
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Bull on March 25, 2004, 11:35:08 PM
Well, if you read the nettips document in the root BZ2 folder, it'll explain what ports need to be opened in order to connect. If all this only happens at your school, perhaps this is the problem, and the other games don't require such specific ports.
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Jabbapop on March 25, 2004, 11:37:30 PM
There's no way to change client ports? For example, SOF2 wouldn't work untill I changed one of the ports to a lower one.
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Bull on March 26, 2004, 12:07:10 AM
Not that I'm aware of, and there's no mention of any options to do so, so I'd say it's set in stone. If not, I'm sure someone will advise.
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Fried on March 26, 2004, 05:32:18 PM
Jabba did you ever have a leaked 1.3 beta ?
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Jabbapop on March 26, 2004, 08:51:34 PM
Quote from: FriedJabba did you ever have a leaked 1.3 beta ?

:?
What does that have to do with anything?
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: GreenHeart on March 26, 2004, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: FriedJabba did you ever have a leaked 1.3 beta ?

Jabbapop's was added to the banlist because when he was seen multiply times using a leaked copy of the 1.3.  IP Address's appears when joining IRC or when in a Bz2 session.
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Jabbapop on March 27, 2004, 02:45:51 AM
Quote from: GreenHeart
Quote from: FriedJabba did you ever have a leaked 1.3 beta ?

Jabbapop's was added to the banlist because when he was seen multiply times using a leaked copy of the 1.3.  IP Address's appears when joining IRC or when in a Bz2 session.

Oh. That's strange. I saw the file available on an FTP server a while back and didn't realize it was a leak. My apologies!
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: DarkFox on March 27, 2004, 05:29:51 AM
You obviously didn't read any of the readme files either Jabba. I respectfully fail to believe you, no offense meant or anything.
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Jabbapop on March 27, 2004, 06:09:15 AM
Quote from: DarkFoxYou obviously didn't read any of the readme files either Jabba. I respectfully fail to believe you, no offense meant or anything.

Ouch! You hurt my feelings! :'(

To elucidate, I've been out of the bz2 community for some time, due to crappy internet. When I came to college, i noticed they have faster lan. At which point, I wanted to see how the game would run. I messaged a member who i knew in the community, asking him about patch status, cuz the 1.2 didn't work behind my lan for some reason, and i thought a new patch might fix it. He directed me to download a 1.3 beta patch. I had no reason to believe it would be a 'leak', as 1.2 went through many betas before the 1.2 final. And there you have it!
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Fried on March 27, 2004, 01:49:52 PM
True or not unfortuantely it came across in the wrong manner, I posted my above comment purely due to the previous work you did for bz2 that i made a lot of use of bzerc has had a lot of use over the years , thanx for that.
Perhaps a server will remove ur ip's from the ban list so you can game some.
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: GreenHeart on March 27, 2004, 03:00:42 PM
Quote from: JabbapopHe directed me to download a 1.3 beta patch. I had no reason to believe it would be a 'leak', as 1.2 went through many betas before the 1.2 final. And there you have it!

When someone who isn't a 1.3 beta member is given the information to download or given the patch directly you know very well the 1.3 patch wasn't released to the public & you know that was your receiving is a LEAK.  Excuses won't help get yourself unbanned since you have to wait until the next Public Beta Patch or until the patch is finalized inorder for the unban to be lifted(which ever comes first).
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Jwk the Hemp Monkey on March 27, 2004, 03:03:15 PM
Hasn't this guy been out of the loop due to lack of internet connection, and as he states, may of not known that the 1.3 was private at the time.
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: *GEL*Victorius[gm] on March 27, 2004, 03:12:03 PM
geez just unban this guy he just wants to play bz2... If you want to ban people who used a leak you could just aswell block everyone who is in a clan...
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Jwk the Hemp Monkey on March 27, 2004, 03:16:16 PM
0 tolerence polcies do not work. Esp when our community is small and dedicated.

The person who is at fault here is the person who 'leaked' the copy, not the user himself - given that he did not know it was 'leaked'.
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Commando on March 27, 2004, 03:42:22 PM
They are both at fault, unfortunately we don't know who gave Jabbapop the patch multiple times.  If the identity of the guilty person was known, that person would get kicked out of the beta testing group, and their ip would possibly be banned too.  Jabbapop had been banned at least two times due to receiving leaked versions of 1.3.  At one point, GSH asked him who leaked it to him, and he said CmptrWz gave him the patch.  This occured last year.  A few weeks before the release of the public beta, he was caught again using the leaked version of 1.3.  I'll comment out the banned ips in my gameprefs file since it is public now.
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: DarkFox on March 28, 2004, 01:52:41 AM
Jabba has also done a lot of harm to the community in the past hemp, it's not like this is his only foul moment.

Maybe he's changed, but I'm not sure.
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Avatar on March 28, 2004, 02:16:35 PM
Jabba's been both good and bad for the Community in the past.  I've been in MP games with him and he's more curious than dangerous.

He likes to know what makes a game tick, and was one of the first to explore the BZ2 shell.  From this he made a utility that was handy in the early days of MP...

I tend to look on some of his 'bad' stuff as a grey area.  He uncovered some of the initial MP bugs (not too hard to do, really, as there were TONS of them) and reported them, which is good.  He also then went out and exploited them all over the place to make sure everyone knew about them.  This was bad.

I'd say it's up to GSH, who's none too happy with our little popper, whether or not the 1.3 patch 'loses' Jabba's IP.

-Av-
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Jwk the Hemp Monkey on March 28, 2004, 07:12:19 PM
If jabber means well yet apparently does 'bad things' then that is because other inderviduals dont know or could not be bothered to try to use his good will.
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Jabbapop on March 28, 2004, 09:46:20 PM
Oh wow. I never realized that GSH banned my IP from the game. That's harsh. He's a meany, anyway. :-P

On a side note, I never remember myself 'cheating', per se. You know what they say about memory though! If man could never forget, he would be in quite the horrible state of mind!

I just can't get over the fact that GSH is provoked to such malice at my sight. It kind of makes me feel important.  :lol:
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: SilverB1rd on March 28, 2004, 09:54:43 PM
So rave guns on scout when your not the host is not a cheat? lets think about that one for a moment.
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Avatar on March 28, 2004, 10:06:41 PM
Did he do that?

Well, then he should die.

Jabba, run off and throw yourself off a bridge, willya?

:lol:

That's what I mean, he's a mixed bag.  Sometimes good, sometimes bad, but always Jabba...

Now I expect Jabbamom and Jabbason and Jabbodog will all show up again.  It's almost like old times...

-Av-
Title: Can't join game with 1.3
Post by: Jabbapop on March 28, 2004, 10:20:53 PM
Quote from: SilverB1rdSo rave guns on scout when your not the host is not a cheat? lets think about that one for a moment.

Speaking of which, is that bug squashed in 1.3? Where you could define nonstandard loadouts for vehicles?