A questión, when I have played in way to multiplayer, I have seen that many attack with their units much height, as if they were flying, are floating literally, this way I often am in disadvantage and obvious I finish destroyed, that combinations of keys I must make to obtain this type of movements and to thus improve my game. Thanks for its contribution, I am new in this game, I like much and I want to learn everything what can.
If they know other tactics I would like that they said to me, thanks !! :-)
Those players are using an exploit to make themselves unhittable.
Turn auto leveling off and then look down and use the reverse thrusters, or any thrusters, or all of them.
1.3 doesnt have any of these things.
If you need to learn how to do it in version 1.2 or earlier of Battlezone.
Flying is accomplished by nosing down, and using your jump and back thrusters while in the air to gain height. You can control your movements in the air with some practice. Like spawn says you must have auto-level turned off, in your options screen.
Ghosting is a bug caused by two things. Using the default multiworld frequency of 10, and fast running.
To change your multiworld frequency in a strat:
- Before the game starts, open the console (CTRL + ~)
- Type in "multiworld.frequency 2" before you enter the game
- This makes lag/warp less of a problem. But you must do this before every game (except DM).
To fast-run:
- While running, point your ship downwards and go forward, keeping the jump and sideways thrusters held down
- This means that you're using *every possible* source of thrust to make your ship go faster.
On a multiworld frequency of 2, you will still notice some ghosting and warp, but it wont be nearly as bad. And you can still find out where a player truly is by targeting him, with the 'T' key. In fact, it is always a good habit to target enemies with the 'T' key just so you can find them easier (and so that you still know where they are when they use invisibility)
Quote from: Zero Angel on March 03, 2008, 10:30:12 PM
(and so that you still know where they are when they use invisibility)
It is amazing how many people don't know this. I have used VIR in 1.1 before in the middle of a fight and the enemy will stop shooting and look around.
Target every enemy so you know where they are. If they pass out of your range, find another enemy to target, or ask your teammates to paint one for you.
I think I'm going to add a (costly) Jammer special... :evil:
Quote from: Red Devil on March 04, 2008, 01:24:16 AM
I think I'm going to add a (costly) Jammer special... :evil:
/curious
Feared, if you couldn't already tell, everyone in 1.1 sucks. THAT'S why they don't target you.
yea, you should get them to upgrade to 1.3 when pb4 comes out :)
LOL. I just looked at the profile of EvolutionX. It is Ares, hahahaha.
I didnt know that you didnt know these things Ares. :-D
Oh, and since you're using 1.2 -- install BZNES, it will let you change your MWF much easier.
um.... wat ZA?? :?
Ares is a long time 1.2 player. He is a good ZST commander. -- Unless maybe this is a different ares.
But he lives in usa...
I meant ares.
What Angel says to Zero is certain, at first I decided to be called You plow if knowledge that existed
nick with that name, once when played in way to multiplayer, said to me that I was the false ares,
then I decided to change to EvolutionX, was for that reason, I did not want to make me happen through anybody.
I am of Latin America, and my ingles is not very good either, long ago that game, also can have been that the
problem, I do not know it, but that is clear that I did not want to make me happen through anybody. Thanks to
all for its contributions!
No problemo, mi amigo
One of the best times I've ever had in a game was when a new player joined my game and I showed him how to build a base, get new weapons, configure ships in the Factory and Recycler, etc. Through his chat, I could almost see the happy and amazed expression on his face. :-o
It might help get new players in the game if training sessions were set up for them.
And those don't exist in any version of bz2, the closest thing is the dm server in 1.2, as most of the 1.3 games are nonpublic or more correctly nonexistent.
Meh, i've taught people the basics in MPI and DM if they've asked or they are getting killed too much. (Like the beginner commanders who dont know how to pass units or that you can upgrade ships inside of the factory)
Quoteas most of the 1.3 games are nonpublic or more correctly nonexistent.
Yeah thats true. Most of the games I see up on the public beta are 2 player password protected ones.
No they are not PB2!
Am I the only one to notice PB3 misreports itself as PB2!?
--refer 2 posts down--
It was a bug that is fixed for pb4, and reread what za actually said.
That's odd, "2 player". Hmmm, I need sleep I guess...
I've been trying to talk civilly to some 1.2 'vets' and they started acting like asses. From there, I am still angry and a bit jumpy I guess. They all loved to say no one used pb3 and all that. And then they say it sucks but they wont ever install it to try it.
Of course they're gonna act like asses. Vets have been burned plenty of times by the public betas, so its not surprising that some would adopt a closed minded stance towards it. Not to mention that Public Beta 3 has a late-game resynch glitch and still some warpiness, making it generally unpalatable for people who are trying to play it for fun.
Yes, some, a small minority, of the so called vets are actually no fun whatsoever to play with. A few are so obsessed with using the various scout exploits that even in late game they will refuse a blast tank and demand an empty scout, so they can just ghost round the map and hover the enemy base, even when this "strategy" is no longer working and they are loosing ships at a rapid rate. The same players will, when in command, persecute their own team members for loosing a few ships by not building replacements for them, the same players will also just quit when it becomes clear that their team will not win... One of the reasons I don't play as much as I used to is the (sh*te) attitude of some of those playing the game. There are one or two that I will no longer bother to play with at all, because I know the experience will not be one worth having.
The vets took gsh up on his offer to keep playing the buggy version because it was more fun. Most don't care anymore, the ones who do are turned away now.
It isn't more fun. Its bugs become very annoying once you have got used to a version that (almost) works properly.
To you it isn't, but to them it is. I personally enjoy games with other competent players, and the combined fact that nobody tells me that 1.3 games are being hosted and I never see any that aren't private, so I end up sticking to 1.2.
If I wanted to play with myself, then I would have never joined all the forums.
Well I usually play mpi every night 1.3pb3 G66 and the only people that join are Rapier(Paladin), and occasionally General Manson, need_a_beer, yeah and a few others on the weekends like Matthew and Fury. It would be nice if a few of you'se guys would join and play every once in a while instead of continously modding the game. And we all need to choose a common ventrilo, like bz2maps.com or something so that we can join at same time, since pb3 has a probem with late joiners. I really like mpi best, but if there were 5 or 6 guys trying to talk me into a game, I'd host a 1.3pb3 strat if eveyone wanted to play.
And every time you join a MPI game with me, you start trying to snipe me...
How many mpi games have we played in the last six months gbd? How many games have we played?
The answer is one. And that was because I was bored, and we were testing bugs in gh's aip. And you never asked me to stop :P
I was just in a 1.3 game for a while, had a nice strat.
Axe-Do you have msn or any im client? Would you be willing to send me a message in the 1.3 chatroom? I might actually set irc up again if someone was willing to get me when games started...
But really, if you have some simple way to contact people, like msn (for some reason it became the 1.2 standard) creating games becomes much easier as you can just bug people.
axeminister5@hotmail.com is my msn messenger contact.
que me up anytime. we usually play mpi every night. about 7:30 pm central time. most of my mpi's are the G66, but we have X-mod 3.2, Steeveeo's rec variant, red devils FE and Fleshstorm also.
I added you, I'm rock8shark, alias is 37. I won't be on tonight but feel free to bug me anytime :P