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Title: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: lucky_foot on March 13, 2008, 05:44:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlezone:_Rise_of_the_Black_Dogs

Read the extra mission with the Black dogs where they fight the Americans and Soviets and the part with the Furies surviving.

Does the community consider this canonical?
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Avatar on March 13, 2008, 07:25:33 PM
Yeah, it's pretty funny...   :-P

Oh, 'CANON' -ical, you mean big guns???    :roll:

(Av reads a book)

Oh, as in 'part of the official history'...   got it.    :-D

ROTBD was commissioned by Activision and done by Crave Games, by Kevin Hoekman and Andrew Goldman...  Kevin was part of the original BZ1 beta and Andrew was part of the BZ1 development team.

Now, I haven't played it even though I own it on the N64...  but I've got people on it for recreation in BZC...   :)  I think I understand the storyline.

And, even though it's a little odd I think it could fit into the 'official' BZ1 storyline without too much trouble.

Consider that the Black Dogs were always on the fringe of the NSDF chain of command...  and that at the end of the war the CCA and NSDF forces were scattered across the solar system in total confusion.  We have no way of knowing how long this lasted before the final attack on the Furies on Achillies.

So consider the Black Dogs, somewhat cut off from normal communications channels and possibly slightly paranoid after seeing the Soviets and Americans working together after the Fury revolt on Titan, as a side bar to the war.  Rather than the events happening AFTER the events in BZ1, they would have happened right near the end, at the same time that the BZ1 hero was confronting the Furies on Achillies and while the NSDF and CCA were working together.

The BDogs would consider those NSDF working with the CCA to be traitors, when in fact they were trying to come up with weapons with which to fight the Furies.

The Furies, otoh, would have split after Titan.  One group would have headed outward to Achillies in an attempt to escape the Solar System.  The other group would have headed inward towards Earth to confront humanity...

-Av-
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Nielk1 on March 13, 2008, 07:56:16 PM
Right now all I have here is some copy and paste info:
http://www.bzcomplex.com/wiki/index.php?title=Battlezone:_Rise_Of_The_Black_Dogs
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: lucky_foot on March 14, 2008, 02:58:33 PM
@Avatar,

Good. That makes sense. :) Thanks for explaining it though that means I'm going to go nuts till I can play it. That's the problem with being a BZ nut.
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Avatar on March 14, 2008, 03:38:29 PM
The interesting thing about ROTBD is that the way it's described has a lot of elements that lean towards BZ2... even though to my knowledge none of the Crave people are on Pandemic's payroll.  Could be wrong, it's not like we ever see anyone but Nathan and Ken here...  :)

Maybe it's sortof how any sequel was planned to go 'back in the day'... with the world becoming biometal aware and all of the nations joining in to work together, while secretly some evil force in the background continued to mess with the Fury technology, and somehow connecting it with the BDogs...

Makes you wonder if, with a little more of this and that, BZ could have become another Quake dynasty...   :)

-Av-
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: General BlackDragon on March 14, 2008, 04:03:32 PM
Yea, I think it goes BZ1 with a little intermix at end with BZROTB, and then TRO, then came along a nice timegap, then BZ2....
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: VSMIT on March 15, 2008, 04:02:34 PM
We just need to figure out what goes in the time-gap.

VSMIT.
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: General BlackDragon on March 15, 2008, 04:14:20 PM
Battlezone Classic's Extended Campaign :)

oh Avatar....Story time! :)
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: VSMIT on March 15, 2008, 04:33:37 PM
Yay! :-D

Uncle Av's Story Time!

VSMIT.
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Avatar on March 17, 2008, 10:06:12 PM
Too tired... sorry.  :(

-Av-
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: bigbadbogie on March 18, 2008, 12:40:56 AM
Av, you medically need more coffee  :-D
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Avatar on March 18, 2008, 12:55:30 AM
Coffee is somewhat how I achieved this state of undead...

Lately the oils in coffee give me heartburn, keeps me up at night, makes me tired, so I drink more coffee, the oils of which give me heartburn, which keeps me... well, you get it by now.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

-Av-
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: General BlackDragon on March 18, 2008, 01:40:30 AM
lol. Good night :)
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: bigbadbogie on March 18, 2008, 01:44:02 AM
Quote from: Avatar on March 18, 2008, 12:55:30 AM
Coffee is somewhat how I achieved this state of undead...

ok - try diet coke
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: anomaly on March 18, 2008, 01:48:11 AM
Or something healthier like tea.
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Warfreak on March 18, 2008, 02:17:29 AM
Is a vicious cycle................. rest in peace Avatar (by that i mean sleep well, DONT DIE ON US!!!!), you deserve the sleep......

IN the meantime ill get my general method of recording, I want to remember what is to be told.  :-D
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: OvermindDL1 on March 18, 2008, 04:01:29 AM
Yes, Tea rules, I live off the stuff. :)
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Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: bigbadbogie on March 18, 2008, 04:53:33 AM
Quote from: Warfreak on March 18, 2008, 02:17:29 AM
IN the meantime ill get my general method of recording

speaking of recording......  :wink:
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Spawn on March 18, 2008, 08:01:29 AM
You could always try an alternative herbal treatment.  Like coke.
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: bigbadbogie on March 18, 2008, 09:25:55 AM
or - if you feel adventurous - vanilla coke!!  :evil:
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Warfreak on March 18, 2008, 01:59:17 PM
Go with the tea, don't think carbonated things will do you good.................... but if you want to go with soda.............. DONT GET THE ROOT BEER, caffine is not there for you to seek........ tons of sugar, but no caffine.....  :-D
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: OvermindDL1 on March 18, 2008, 05:32:27 PM
And that is one of the reasons I drink root beer if I drink a soda. :)
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Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Avatar on March 18, 2008, 07:13:48 PM
Caffeine actually isn't....all.......bad.................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzthud.
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: anomaly on March 18, 2008, 08:20:39 PM
What rootbeers have you guys been drinking.  Everywhere I go, the only stuff they have is Barq's, and that does have caffeine... because Coca-Cola feels there is some need to add caffeine to everything.
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Warfreak on March 18, 2008, 09:12:24 PM
Mug, A&W,  Offbrands of the stuff............ gotta love Root Beer.  :-)
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: bigbadbogie on March 18, 2008, 09:14:53 PM
i think i represent all foreigners to america when i say WHAT THE F@*$ IS ROOT BEER???
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Warfreak on March 18, 2008, 09:24:11 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_beer

Read and learn Li'l Grasshoppa'  :-D
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Feared_1 on March 19, 2008, 02:41:02 AM
Root beer is a nasty substance that is used to drive small children into eating foamy, vanilla ice cream.

I would recommend Dr. Pepper for caffeine therapy. He has his doctrine in making people feel good, and is a personal friend of mine.
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: OvermindDL1 on March 19, 2008, 03:00:12 AM
A&W here, nothing better, I do not really like most of the others, especially Barq's, tastes like black licorice.
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Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Nielk1 on March 19, 2008, 03:09:34 AM
MUG :-D
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Spawn on March 19, 2008, 03:15:01 AM
Anyone ever heard of POWERTHIRST?
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: bigbadbogie on March 19, 2008, 03:25:24 AM
all you had to say was sarsaparilla -- and i hate that crap
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: VSMIT on March 19, 2008, 04:02:22 AM
There are many different kinds of root beer, though.  Boot Reer is my personal favorite, but nothing beats a cold Dr. Pepper.

VSMIT.
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: anomaly on March 19, 2008, 04:06:32 AM
Quote from: OvermindDL1 on March 19, 2008, 03:00:12 AM
A&W here, nothing better, I do not really like most of the others, especially Barq's, tastes like black licorice.

Dude, the licorice flavoring is what makes it good!
And we don't have A&W around here anymore  :-(
Occasionally I find a restaurant with Mug but, man, Coca-Cola has its grip on everthing.

Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: General BlackDragon on March 19, 2008, 02:31:51 PM
How in gods name did ROTBD turn into Root Beer?  :roll:
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Spawn on March 19, 2008, 02:38:29 PM
I blame xenu.
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: mrtwosheds on March 19, 2008, 05:18:10 PM
I think I see what must be happening...Somewhere out in the Atlantic ocean there must be some sort of "Beer Triangle" that swallows all knowledge from passing travellers of how to make real beer...Abominations such as those mentioned above must have resulted from its victims attempts to regain this lost sacred knowledge through vile experimentation on children, prisoners and the mentally deficient.  :-D

I only used this laughing smiley because I can't find one that actually vomits.
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: Red Devil on March 19, 2008, 06:37:25 PM
Boil, mash, sparge, boil, hop, yeast, ferment, keg, carbonate, chill, drink.  :-)
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: mrtwosheds on March 19, 2008, 07:36:54 PM
carbonate.... might as well throw it away after this.
Beer should be stored at around 50 f or 10 centigrade.

Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: technoid on March 20, 2008, 12:44:55 AM
Quote from: Red Devil on March 19, 2008, 06:37:25 PM
Boil, mash, sparge, boil, hop, yeast, ferment, keg, carbonate, chill, drink.  :-)
Samwise?
Title: Re: Rise of the Blackdogs
Post by: VSMIT on March 20, 2008, 10:31:44 PM
He forgot to stick 'em in a stew.