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Battlezone Universe => Archive Vault => Public 1.3 Beta 4 Archive => Topic started by: Steeveeo on June 17, 2008, 12:14:13 AM

Title: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: Steeveeo on June 17, 2008, 12:14:13 AM
I have noticed, while attempting to port SRV to PB4, that the SatchelClass timer has gone missing, as in no "Holy Crap! Death is Imminent!" timer for my Sky-Eye Laser Beacon, and, after checking the Changelog, it said that it was taken out because it was "Ugly, out of place, and somewhat broken".

I believe a ton of mods depend on this, whether it be just in Strategy matches as a freakout weapon; or progression of Story in SP (ie, a megagun takes X amount of time to charge up to firing, and requires a satchelclass to create the timer). So, if you guys can, and if you are making a fix patch for that one AV everyone keeps getting, could you see what you could do to fix the "somewhat broken" part of it and place it back into PB4?


Many thanks to the Beta team for getting BZ2 this far, it just needs a couple more nudges in the right direction! ;)
Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: Commando on June 17, 2008, 01:58:44 AM
I think the broken part is as follows.

1.  You are limited to one counter, but can plant many statchel charges.  Therefore the timer can hide weapons that are about to detonate due to only showing the recently planted statchel.

2.  If you plant a statchel, make a savegame, then reload the savegame, the timer will say 0.000 or whatever for 0 seconds until the statchel detonates.

These two points are to the broken.

I agree that I wish a more elogant fix was made.  For example, showing the timer above the item actual item.
Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: Steeveeo on June 17, 2008, 02:04:48 AM
#1, doesnt matter too awefully much in combat situations, just a minor inconvenience.

#2, unless the satchel charge is set to a couple minutes, really does not bother me, personally.
Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: GSH on June 17, 2008, 02:06:33 AM
Everyone and their brother has "just one more thing" to try and get into pb4a. Half of them seem to be undoing KenCode(tm) changes, or making them optional.

-- GSH
Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: bigbadbogie on June 17, 2008, 02:31:03 AM
yeah - but if you remove features that were previously available....
Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: Steeveeo on June 17, 2008, 03:08:51 AM
Can there at least be an ODF swtich that determines whether or not its shows the timer (defaulted to off if you so wish).
Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: OvermindDL1 on June 17, 2008, 03:38:19 AM
The timer you are talking about can still be easily done by DLL and some IFace commands through the DLL, and can be done better...
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Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: Nielk1 on June 17, 2008, 05:23:38 AM
But that is outside the scope of SRV...

The satchel timer should ahve never been permanently removed. If I had noticed I would have said something. An ODF toggle would have been fine.
Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: TheJamsh on June 20, 2008, 09:13:36 PM
just dont remove anythign else Ken put in, like the sticky leader round ordnance. oooo trust me if you checked out this new scion weapon you wouldnt wanna =D

and keep the taps! theres no problems! i (heart) more tappage!
Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: Commando on June 20, 2008, 09:15:18 PM
GSH deserves credit for the 8 taps, not Ken.
Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: bigbadbogie on June 20, 2008, 09:17:08 PM
arent they like twins though??  :-D
Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: Commando on June 20, 2008, 09:19:12 PM
GBD is working on a fix to this that should be better than the original behavior hopefully.
Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: General BlackDragon on June 21, 2008, 01:22:34 AM
I've got something working good now.

Seeing if GSH will help any and then submitting.
Title: Re: SatchelClass Timer Gone?
Post by: TheJamsh on June 21, 2008, 04:24:31 PM
yeh i know GSH did the taps ut there was a comment about removing them if there are problems...

there isnt!

its fine :D