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Battlezone Universe => Battlezone 2 => Topic started by: Nick53 on July 18, 2008, 03:42:00 AM

Title: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: Nick53 on July 18, 2008, 03:42:00 AM
Ive got full FE, ZE, outback, rainforest, Dune Command and running standard BZII on my HP Comp:

2GB RAM
256MB Nvidea Graphics
WIN XP

Is very slow and jerky. No spyware, viruses, disks defraged, current drivers, tried everything. Funny thing is that it was much better that this and only got worse very slowly or I only noticed it now. Any help/advice would be very greatly appreciated.

PS Any ideas except reinstall, It'l take me AGES to find the ZE and Full FE installs :) .
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: General BlackDragon on July 18, 2008, 03:55:13 AM
are you running 1.3 pb4?
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: Nick53 on July 18, 2008, 04:36:15 AM
No, I've got that under a seperate install. You can't get FE and ZE with pbIII?
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: TheJamsh on July 18, 2008, 11:31:45 AM
ZE mod is available for PB3 here: www.zemod.com/forum... may have to filter through a bit.

FE is now also available for PB3 thanks to Red Devil... its not entierly finished yet i believe, and hes now concentrating on making it work with PB4. its all there =]

join me in a game of ZE sometime... NOONE seems to have it...
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: General BlackDragon on July 18, 2008, 03:20:02 PM
ZE Mod for PB4 is there.

FE for PB4 is coming

PB3 is old and has broken mp :P
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: Nick53 on July 18, 2008, 10:18:18 PM
OK, Ive reinstalled BZII, no patches, just out of the box. Graphics are on highest setting and screen 1280 x 1024 60hz. The framerate is still quite appaling (for a game from 1990 and frozen stiff) surely ive got enuf hardware 256Graphics 2GBRAM. Will pbIII fix this?


Where can I find a FE full install????
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: Nielk1 on July 18, 2008, 10:36:34 PM
Your hardware might be too NEW.

It could also be your drivers.
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: Nick53 on July 18, 2008, 11:22:21 PM
What drivers are ideal? (I think I've got the very latest one for Geforce 7 series)
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: General BlackDragon on July 19, 2008, 12:02:51 AM
maybe roll back the drivers a bit?

I know some new geforce drivers present some wonky graphics issues.

Try PB4, it has some framerate and support for slightly newer hardware (multi core processors, vista, etc)
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: TheJamsh on July 19, 2008, 01:42:23 AM
turn EBMP bumpmapping off if things get bad... that had a devastating effect on my machine...

which was a real blow because they looked STUNNING with the DXT textures and bump maps for the whole 2 minutes that they worked...

you got ZE yet my friend?
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: Nick53 on July 19, 2008, 02:04:39 AM
The ZE website's down at the mo  :-(

Done a reinstall, got 1.3pb4 and waiting on ZE as per above, still cant find full ZE install.

I've reduced the screen size, it runs really well but.... well, the screen's small :-D.
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: OvermindDL1 on July 19, 2008, 09:15:33 AM
Also do remember, the game is old enough that drawing things is done on CPU, not video card (well the costly transforms and lighting anyway), so a good video card can actually only hinder, not help things.  Faster cpu's are better (multi-cores are worthless for BZ2).
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Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: Nick53 on July 19, 2008, 09:08:34 PM
 :-( I've got Dual-Core. I meant to say I can't find a full FE install does anyone know where I can find it?
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: Steeveeo on July 19, 2008, 09:14:00 PM
Quote from: Nick53 on July 19, 2008, 09:08:34 PM
:-( I've got Dual-Core.
He meant the advantage of having two cores is basically null (except now the PB4 can set core affinities for worker processes like Gamespy and such), not that multi-cores dont work at all.
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: GSH on July 19, 2008, 09:54:50 PM
Faster videocards do have a slight benefit, though mainly at larger screen resolutions. Most fancy new videocards have a ton of features BZ2 doesn't use, because BZ2 speaks Direct3D 6. Any feature added after D3D 6 is ignored by BZ2. What BZ2 can and does take advantage of is faster fill rates. Basically, modern videocards have got more and faster local memory. Fast(er) access to memory is useful when texturing polygons, clearing the screen, etc.

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Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: Commando on July 19, 2008, 10:17:47 PM
Since you said you have an Nvidia card with the latest driver, the first thing to do is try setting sky detail to none.  See if that helps performance at all.  If my setting is anything other than None, my performance suffers and the game eventually dropps to under 10 fps while all textures turn transparent.
Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: OvermindDL1 on July 20, 2008, 02:31:37 AM
Quote from: GSH on July 19, 2008, 09:54:50 PM
Faster videocards do have a slight benefit, though mainly at larger screen resolutions. Most fancy new videocards have a ton of features BZ2 doesn't use, because BZ2 speaks Direct3D 6. Any feature added after D3D 6 is ignored by BZ2. What BZ2 can and does take advantage of is faster fill rates. Basically, modern videocards have got more and faster local memory. Fast(er) access to memory is useful when texturing polygons, clearing the screen, etc.
Except when the drivers drop DX6 support of course. >.<

At least OpenGL has far less issues with versioning...
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Title: Re: VERY Slow and Jerky BZII
Post by: Ego - Nikolas on July 20, 2008, 07:58:34 AM
7 series is old.
I remember me using 7600gt that was fast graphics, and i still feel wory coz i had to sell it,my agp mainboard die and i had to get 9800gtx no problems with any games now :)

Use that driver, kinda old dut nice and fast without problems.
91.47_forceware_winxp2k_international_whql.exe

And ofc you need to check latest updated host and client tips topic for bz2 system..

http://bz2maps.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1597

And http://bz2maps.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=15