Battlezone Universe

Battlezone Universe => Battlezone 2 => Maps and Modding => Topic started by: Dianoga4 on July 30, 2008, 09:50:18 PM

Title: Need some help please
Post by: Dianoga4 on July 30, 2008, 09:50:18 PM
Hey all, so I have a few vehicles and buildings built and I want to test them out in multiplayer with a few friends. I believe I've figured out how to add things to the constructors build list as well as the factory build list. I'm not wanting to make new maps or anything like that, I just want to add a few items to factory, constructor and maybe the recycler. This is what I need help with. I've done some searching but can't really find a clear tutorial on how to exactly set this up.

This is what I think I know...and please let me know what I'm off on.

I would have to have a separate odf for the factory, constructor and recycler named differently then the stock ones.

I think I would need to have a stock map copied and renamed and I would only be able to use these in that map.

I believe I have to do some changes to the some of the prefs files?

I'm not sure but I think it could be done by repacking a new pak file with the changed items.


So yea I've messed around with adding and creating items that I can test out in the editor (a couple of which so far I have to figure out why they don't work in PB4) but I've never tried testing things out with other people. Any links or any help is much appreciated.

Another question, what does "malformed odf" mean? Getting an error on one of my vehicles that when I try to test it in the editor, I just crash to desktop.

Thanks!

Dia
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: General BlackDragon on July 30, 2008, 11:03:34 PM
1.3 lets u add recycler varients.

You can setup the recy lists in the "recylist.txt" file, and send that and ur assets to ur friends. As long as no files are named the same as stock, it should work. You can also create a different map inf that points to a different recylist.txt file, so even that can be named differently from stock.

:)
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: Dianoga4 on July 30, 2008, 11:14:06 PM
Do I have to create a recylist.txt? I can't find one in the BZ program folder anywhere so I am guessing yes?
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: GSH on July 30, 2008, 11:19:40 PM
You should be using the .autoreg files instead for recy variants.

-- GSH
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: Dianoga4 on July 30, 2008, 11:22:18 PM
Oh geez now I'm really lost but thanks heh.

Edit: I see the autoreg files there and I've been looking at Steevo's recy variant mod. I should be able to learn something from there.
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: Dianoga4 on August 02, 2008, 12:50:02 AM
Ok looks like I got the recycler variant thing going.

I have another question now though. I made a gun tower and when I try it in the editor it looks and works fine. When I get a constructor to build it though, it builds it half buried in the ground with only the top half sticking out of the ground? Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks!
Dia
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: AcneVulgaris on August 02, 2008, 02:43:50 AM
Ah...you've encountered the rare, burrowing gun tower.  They're very shy, you're lucky to have seen one at all.

Try setting out a bowl of powdered toast, and wait quietly.  Burrowing towers can't get enough Powdered Toast!

Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: Dianoga4 on August 02, 2008, 02:47:24 AM
heh, well I'll try that but I was hoping I could prevent them from doing it in the first place, thanks heh.

Dia
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: Steeveeo on August 02, 2008, 03:11:06 AM
Assuming its a custom model, Im guessing it has something with the dummyroot being too far up, but Im not a modeller, so someone else would be of more help.
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: bigbadbogie on August 02, 2008, 04:10:19 AM
The scion gun-spire is elevated 2 points above ground when it is placed with the editor.
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: GreenHeart on August 02, 2008, 05:14:26 AM
Quote from: bigbadbogie on August 02, 2008, 04:10:19 AM
The scion gun-spire is elevated 2 points above ground when it is placed with the editor.

That is because of the control panel room goes under terrain__h, eliminate that interior & the -2 elevation is gone. 
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: mrtwosheds on August 02, 2008, 07:47:02 AM
For non hovering, non terrain owning objects, the top level root of the model will usually determine its position relative to the ground.
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: Dianoga4 on August 02, 2008, 02:52:02 PM
I fixed it now. It was that the center of the base of the model was half way up the base. I had fixed it before but I guess I must've forgot to save it or something. I went back in 3dmax and poof there it was staring me in the face heh.

Also thanks for the info on the recycler variants and autoreg. I got it working with customized building lists in a recycler, constructor and factory and was playing online multiplayer with a few friends. It's exactly what I was needing to know.

Thanks for the help guys, it is much appreciated.

Dia
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: Dianoga4 on August 08, 2008, 06:50:38 PM
I have another question. With the recycler variant I'm doing, how do I get the enemy to use my mod in MPI? I mean I'd like to play as and fight against my units that I've created.

Thanks for any help!

Dia
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: Steeveeo on August 08, 2008, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: Dianoga4 on August 08, 2008, 06:50:38 PM
I have another question. With the recycler variant I'm doing, how do I get the enemy to use my mod in MPI? I mean I'd like to play as and fight against my units that I've created.

Thanks for any help!

Dia
You'll have to create some AIPs that tell the AI to build your units.
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: TheJamsh on August 08, 2008, 07:52:54 PM
Quote from: AcneVulgaris on August 02, 2008, 02:43:50 AM
Ah...you've encountered the rare, burrowing gun tower.  They're very shy, you're lucky to have seen one at all.

Try setting out a bowl of powdered toast, and wait quietly.  Burrowing towers can't get enough Powdered Toast!



one of the first times ive really truly 'loled'
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: Dianoga4 on August 08, 2008, 10:19:32 PM
Ack, not sure if I want to get into that yet but depends on how easy it is. Is there a tutorial on creating AIPs somewhere?


Edit**I just found the AIP editor, I'll have a look at it. Thanks for the info Steeveeo.

Quote from: Steeveeo on August 08, 2008, 07:51:03 PM
You'll have to create some AIPs that tell the AI to build your units.
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: Steeveeo on August 08, 2008, 11:01:05 PM
I wouldnt reccomend the AIP editor, it removes lines that it doesnt understand, and PB4 changed the AIP system quite a bit, making the AIP Editor basically kill any modern AIPs you send through it.

Anyone have any idea when/if the AIp editor is gunna be remade to work with PB4a?
Title: Re: Need some help please
Post by: Dianoga4 on August 08, 2008, 11:04:00 PM
Ah ok good to know. It looks like I won't be messing with it anytime soon though lol. Looks to be more then I care to venture with at this time. I'll get all my units in and working correctly first then perhaps tackle that. At least I am able to play multiplayer with my stuff so that's very cool right now. Thanks again.

Dia