or laptop rather. but its a nice Toshiba one. i had my old toshiba for ten years and its still going strong.
question for anyone who uses ATI catalyst control centre with Vista.
HOW do i override the screen refresh rate? this computer is 2.4ghz Centrino Dual core, do i know i can get far higher than 60fps. i tried using the setting in the ATI CCC, but it didnt work.
The max refresh rate shown in the windows display dialog box is 60 hertz, which is crap. i want to force around 100-140. can that be done or not?
oh little helper, everytime i now use the ATI CCC with the override on, the theme changes to windows vista basic. tried doing that manually. still no luck.
You have a laptop, meaning you have a cheap LCD screen, meaning it can *ONLY* support 60hz, if you set it to anything else your screen would turn black, hence why it does not let you. Hook up a good CRT or higher end LCD to the VGA/DVI output and you can set it higher on that one.
Most decent monitor can at least all do 75hz, mine can do 200hz (any wonder why I still use a CRT instead of an LCD :P CRT's also have greater color depth, most LCD's are limited to 6-bits per color where-as the computer outputs 8-bits of color information per color, CRT's can handle 8-bit fine, but basically no LCD under a grand can).
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Well, guess I will keep my 2 CRTs. I have a big desk at least.
f*ck
Why do you want to change the refresh rate anyway?
It will make very little difference to the game.
because my frame rate can only be at 60 fps MAX if my screen refresh rate is 60 hertz. and i want it a lot higher than that.
ive got a fairly large telly in my bedroom i could hook it up to. dont know how ithe cardll handle it though, beiong a proper TV screen. and its still not CRT
Disabling VSync will let you exceed the monitors refresh rate, although there is not really any reason to do so except for 'boasting'...
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i have disabled it, in the ATI CCC and localprefs.ini still hitting 60fps max. occasionally itll tweak to 60.20 fps or something.
this is a 2.4ghz dual centrino proc with an ATI HD2600 card. i should be able to get way more FPS than this.
i have a feeling vista might be limiting it somehow... not too sure :S
You can see more than 60 frames per second?
The frame rate in BZ2 is pretty much determined by
1. what's happening in the game.
2. how efficiently your pc's processor can process it.
If you are having problems with frame rate, I would look to lightening the load on your processor.
The are several posts concerning duel processors around here somewhere.
If you are having problems with your frame rate while running your mod, then it is there you need to look. BZ2 is very sensitive to excessive amounts of sprites and polygons.
well the frame rate drops with some xpls, but i know why that is. too many particles lol.
i was having the same issue on my desktop, until i set the refresh rate to 75 hertz and got 75 fps. again it could go higher, but wont exceed the screen refresh rate. dunno why.
its not just with my mod. its with all BZ2. in fact its LESS of a problem with my mod, because AIP's cause stuttering on both my PC's (only tiny, but noticeable if you look close) and yes. aipLogging is off.
i tried overriding the refresh rate in ATI CCC. didnt work.
i tried disbaling vSync in both ATI CCC and localize.ini. didnt work.
the desktop is only a 2.1 ghz dual core duo, and an nVIdia 7500 LE card. running vista premiuim.
the laptop is a 2.4ghz centrino dual core, an ATI Radeon HD 2600 card. again running vista premium.
the laptops HDD is also empty compared to the desktop, and has about 40-50 processes running, using 2-5% cpu most of the time.
the Dekstop HDD is half full, and has about60-70 processes running, using 10-20% of the CPU most of the time.
so basically, the laptop should be FAR better. its just getting the settings right.
Quoteand has about60-70 processes running
That's allot.
Only got 28 running on mine at the moment.
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Try increasing the hertz for your monitor. You may have to change size on your monitor panel after doing this.
If you have vsync turned off in ATI CCC, but still peaking at 60, try toggling BZ2's vsync command.
IIRC:
vid.waitretrace
It's a toggle, like the cheats.
Quote from: GENERAL MANSON* on September 14, 2008, 07:09:39 PM
Try increasing the hertz for your monitor. You may have to change size on your monitor panel after doing this.
Quote from: OvermindDL1 on September 12, 2008, 06:50:22 PM
You have a laptop, meaning you have a cheap LCD screen, meaning it can *ONLY* support 60hz, if you set it to anything else your screen would turn black, hence why it does not let you. Hook up a good CRT or higher end LCD to the VGA/DVI output and you can set it higher on that one.
'Nuff said.
VSMIT.
what OS you running 2sheds?
i use task manager and go through various stuff, i try to get rid of it but most starts back up again... i cant ever get it below 50 and to stay there without causing problems.
damn vista
Try running msconfig via the Run dialog, then check out the Startup tab. Be careful.
Even my vista only has 40 and thats bad (all that antivirus/spyware.. ugh)... dude what the hell have you got on it?
My XP has like, 16. Lol.
And yes, its a laptop, which means poor screen and laptops aren't really made for gaming. Unless its an XPS. Or a MacBookPro on bootcamp, bloody things fly xD
My computer has 163 processes running right now. It usually has between 120 to 140 at startup, depending on what I let fully startup. And yet the only time it slows down is when I compile something like my parser (which takes about 15 minutes eating about 4 gigs of ram thus far, which is where the slowdown comes from, the freaking virtual memory)...
If a Windows box is set up well, it runs well, it just takes a long time to get it to that 'well' status.
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Does your new Toshiba laptop have some sort of VGA-out for a secondary monitor? You could probably use that and change the external monitor's freq to >60hz. That is how I do it on my 5-year old laptop, i.e. I can change the refresh rate, but it's only for the alternate ext display. The IGP I have onboard the laptop is an ATI 345M (RS200), circa 2003. Works great for when I want to play BZII on my projector at up to 480" (40 ft) diagonal screen (although it's more practical at ~100") and I don't want to see wavy lines if the external refresh is at 60hz. But I'll usually play BZII on the laptop LCD screen if nothing else. LCD screens also have the minor annoyance of quick movement becoming fuzzy (ghosting) and input lag such as with mice control. Not sure how it is with newer notebook LCD's. As usual, YMMV, so test things out. I might have some complaints about mine, but I'm not complaining very much since I got this laptop for free (actually 3 laptops for free).
Yep it does have a VGA out.
The laptop was really oly bought so i could get access to a half-decent specced computer whenevcer i wanted to (rather than waiting untila point where only 1 of 6 people wanted to use our family computer)
Im going to connect the VGA out to my big external TV LCD in my room with a long cable, can play games from my bed then :). or i could whack it into my downstairs CRT type telly, if OM believes ill get a better picture.
doesnt have a PC in slot though, can i use VGA-scart or VGA to those three yellow/red/white ones? (actually itll be just yellow wont it?)
You get a better color pallete on a CRT computer monitor then an LCD monitor (tv or computer), but a CRT TV screen is also more limited in colors. Computer CRT screens truly best everything else out in terms of quality (assuming you have even a half-decent one).
Plugging it into any form of normal tv will limit your screen size to 720x480 at best. Even the cheapest computer monitors are vastly higher then that (and decent computer monitors, like mine, best even the highest of the HD TV screens).
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Ah... limiting it to 720x480 might be a bit poo, seeing as i usually play at 1440x900 or something massive...
I think my TV LCD is HD compatible, and laptop is HD compatible, but no idea if it will output as such.
HD is an utter crap marketing term and computers have been capable of much higher then the highest possible 'HD' resolution for a good 20+ years. Even a 'crap' laptop video card should be able to put out well above the TV 'HD' resolution. HD is just high quality to those who are used to the utter crap that is the normal television, but it is still utter crap compared to what computers have been capable of for such a long time.
Now depending on the game you may not be able to get playable framerate on a laptop video card, but it should still be capable of it regardless. :P
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