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Title: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on December 15, 2008, 10:44:37 PM
I just got my new laptop PC that runs on Vista home and its 64 bit and i was able to install all versions of BZ2 exept for 1.3pb3 and when im playen any other version my ~ key stops working so i cant use  ctrl + ~ to get into the command line. Does any1 know of this or have a fix
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: TheJamsh on December 15, 2008, 10:45:19 PM
not a clue. mine works fine though...

then again. i didnt run 64-bit
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Zero Angel on December 15, 2008, 11:19:47 PM
I'm having the same problem:

Laptop
Vista 64-bit
Battlezone2 US
Canadian Multilingual Keyboard
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: GSH on December 15, 2008, 11:22:14 PM
pb4/pb4a allow you to remap the ~ key via gameprefs.ini.

-- GSH
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on December 15, 2008, 11:28:40 PM
iv tried a bunch of different keyboard layout things and nothing works

Quote from: Zero Angel on December 15, 2008, 11:19:47 PM
I'm having the same problem:

Laptop
Vista 64-bit
Battlezone2 US
Canadian Multilingual Keyboard

is ur laptop Acer
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on December 15, 2008, 11:34:30 PM
Quote from: GSH on December 15, 2008, 11:22:14 PM
pb4/pb4a allow you to remap the ~ key via gameprefs.ini.

-- GSH

that solves 1.3pb4a but what about older versions
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on December 16, 2008, 12:37:37 AM
i also cant use the F10 key
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Zero Angel on December 16, 2008, 07:05:43 AM
Quote from: GSH on December 15, 2008, 11:22:14 PM
pb4/pb4a allow you to remap the ~ key via gameprefs.ini.

-- GSH
Thanks for that info. I'll look into it.

Quote from: Dataanti on December 15, 2008, 11:28:40 PM
iv tried a bunch of different keyboard layout things and nothing works

is ur laptop Acer
Nope its an HP Pavilion DV5-1014CA (I think)
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on December 16, 2008, 08:50:26 PM
i tried redoing the 0x29 thing in the game prefs to Z key and it did nothing and to use F10 on my pc i dont know if any1 else has this problem i need to hold ctrl + F10

whats the best keyboard setting to use with BZ2
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on December 16, 2008, 09:09:48 PM
also once u move a unit to the F10 slot with ctrl + F# u cant get it back out
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: cheesepuffly on December 16, 2008, 09:59:50 PM
I use vista, but its not a laptop nor is it 64 bit, and it seems to run fine, except when i use the F10 key i lags a little bit (not really annoying)
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on December 16, 2008, 10:05:24 PM
also when u select a group of units u cant use ~ to select 1 of the units in the group
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Zero Angel on December 16, 2008, 10:14:02 PM
As far as keymapping goes. Is there a way to 'grab' the key to find out its character code for BZ2?
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: OvermindDL1 on December 17, 2008, 03:59:27 AM
Just google keycode, or scancode... whichever one it was that BZ uses...
(http://www.overminddl1.com/image_scripts/image_sig.php?type=ODL1signitures&image/sig.gif)
Generated by OvermindDL1's Signature Auto-Add Script (http://overminddl1.com) that OvermindDL1 did manually since Greasemonkey does not work in Firefox 3.1 yet...

Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on December 17, 2008, 12:35:53 PM
i think its cause laptops have different key boards like the smaller 1s have not as much keys so they fit and the bigger 1s have more buttons cause they fit, and the F 10 problem is only in 1.3 for me.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on December 17, 2008, 09:38:32 PM
i cant even rotate buildings
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on December 17, 2008, 11:29:01 PM
its not the key board i tried a normal key board and it was the same, i think it is 64 bit OS that is the problem
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Commando on December 18, 2008, 12:04:20 AM
Yeah, my brother's computer has the same issue.  He has the 32 bit version of Vista, but he has a tv receiver in his comp that allows him to watch television on his comp.  I believe it is that capability that bz2 doesn't like.  No matter what keyboard you plug in, bz2 will not recognize the ~ key.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on December 18, 2008, 12:41:22 AM
the F10 key works in patches 1.2 and down

~ key doesnt work i any and i tried putting it a Z and it did nothing, i also cant rotate buildings, and split groups

it is not the keyboard layout cause i tried a ton and it doesnt do any thing, a new keyboard wont do anything, i installed MS keyboard layout maker and made my own and that didnt work either

I think it has to do with 64 bit OS's, is there any other thinks that might help
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on December 18, 2008, 04:25:42 PM
Quote from: Commando on December 18, 2008, 12:04:20 AM
Yeah, my brother's computer has the same issue.  He has the 32 bit version of Vista, but he has a tv receiver in his comp that allows him to watch television on his comp.  I believe it is that capability that bz2 doesn't like.  No matter what keyboard you plug in, bz2 will not recognize the ~ key.
I tried my old PC keyboard and it did nothing, I don't a TV receiver on my laptop but it can hook up to the TV if u want to play on a bigger screen. I think it might have to do with vista and hot keys that laptops have because they take away buttons on keyboards to make it fit. I can't find the hot keys options tho, and that wouldn't make seance for the F10 key problem cause it works in all versions except for 1.3 versions so the F10 key problem is a change in the 1.3 patches.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: AHadley on December 18, 2008, 05:11:30 PM
Lol, I'm so glad my TV has a VGA port on it  :roll:
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Commando on December 18, 2008, 11:04:42 PM
My brother's PC is not a laptop and it has the same issue.  I doubt the keyboard has anything to do with the ~ key not working in bz2.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Zero Angel on January 06, 2009, 03:45:56 AM
Confirmed.

Have set my locale to English (US), keyboard layout to US, and am using a generic external keyboard. The problems still persist.

As I mentioned before, i'm running a laptop with Vista 64-bit.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: GSH on January 06, 2009, 05:08:56 AM
One point: although the UI shows ~, that's wrong. BZ2 looks for the ` (grave, == backtick) keystroke. ~ is more obvious as to what key it is, for a standard US-English-104key keyboard. But, on said keyboard, to type a ~, you need to hit shift-grave. BZ2 doesn't require the shift action, which would be needed if it actually was ~. It's not. It's `.

-- GSH
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Nielk1 on January 06, 2009, 10:17:59 AM
Somehow I knew SOMEONE was gan'na point that out...
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: jack_soundcraft on January 06, 2009, 11:22:22 AM
we are having some of the same type of problems using mac computers  f1 to f10 . not finished yet . going to try other things.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on January 06, 2009, 09:15:45 PM
I think BZ2 needs a keyboard up-date to the newer keyboards, or a DL fix if you have the problem u DL and extract.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: GSH on January 06, 2009, 09:30:10 PM
BZ2 patches are released when I want, with the contents that I want. There's no guarantees that any future patches to BZ2 will ever be delivered. I'd say that there are plenty of other bugs that are more important than this, and that you should be complaining to MS, because this is a compatability issue caused by updates on their end.. Just like nVidia should be whined to because their latest cards break DX6.

Also, while I was given a free copy of Vista Ultimate (32-bit) a year ago by MS, I've never bothered to install it. That should tell you what I think of that OS.

-- GSH
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on January 06, 2009, 10:33:58 PM
that solves the ` key problem but still not the F10 key problem, F10 key problem only happens in the 1.3 patches so i know its not update related, its 1.3 patch related
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Zero Angel on January 08, 2009, 10:36:56 AM
Anyone else having problems with the "teamchat" hotkey? AKA the single/double quotation key?
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Commando on January 08, 2009, 02:21:13 PM
My brother's computer does have issues with those keys too.  The keys I could tell were affected were the ~ and " keys.

My personal computer doesn't have any issues with input.  I'm thinking it is due to either a specific driver that is running or the version of windows.  My brother has Vista with Media Center.  I'm thinking either Media Center is the cause or the drivers/hardware for my brother's remote control for the computer, which he doesn't even have the controller for.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on January 08, 2009, 04:28:01 PM
is your PC a laptop or desk top and is ur brothers a laptop?  i also have the " key, just noticed
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Commando on January 08, 2009, 04:43:18 PM
Both my computer and my brother's computers are desktops.

Mine is a homebuilt system and my brother's is a Gateway.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on January 08, 2009, 08:03:01 PM
wat does all our PC's having the problem have in common common?
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: GSH on January 09, 2009, 06:20:46 AM
Nobody likes vista: http://xkcd.com/528/ (http://xkcd.com/528/).

-- GSH
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Commando on January 09, 2009, 02:23:12 PM
Wow!  That is wrong, yet so funny at the same time.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on January 09, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
i fixed my F10 problem by finding the hotkey and mine was for blue tooth adapter thing and now its gone, try to find hotkeys for `/ ~  and   '/ "
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: jack_soundcraft on January 12, 2009, 09:39:52 AM
man no wonder all my freinds are going to mac (this is an understatement in view of mac sales compared to pc recently in my area in aust)
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Red Devil on January 12, 2009, 05:33:18 PM
"Well, it's better than Vista."

"True"

:lol:
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Commando on January 12, 2009, 07:29:17 PM
The key issues Data has doesn't only happen on Vista.  I have seen someone using Windows XP Media Center Edition report the same issue.  He had to disable his remote control for media center to get bz2 to recognize those keys, if my memory is correct.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Dataanti on January 12, 2009, 08:02:32 PM
Quote from: Commando on January 12, 2009, 07:29:17 PM
The key issues Data has doesn't only happen on Vista.  I have seen someone using Windows XP Media Center Edition report the same issue.  He had to disable his remote control for media center to get bz2 to recognize those keys, if my memory is correct.

were is windows media center settings? <-- nvm that

were in windows media center settings do i find remote control for
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: Commando on January 12, 2009, 08:58:38 PM
http://www.bzuniverse.com/forum/index.php/topic,5186.0.html

The above link can only be accessed by 1.3 beta testers but GSH may find it useful.  I'll post the pertinent info here.

Quote
RD, you were close. I got it working by unplugging the infrared remote for my PC remote for the Media Center remote control. After a reboot my keyboard now works in game (so far). So I'll have to see if just unplugging the infrared works everytime.

Thanks for the link. I have a wired keyboard and mouse but used the remote for TV viewing. I'll play around more but very happy to have my whole keyboard back for BZ2.

Again, thanks guys for all the help.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: GSH on January 12, 2009, 09:09:57 PM
If something on the system (e.g. bluetooth & F10, remote & `) decides that it gets permanent dibs on a key, before BZ2 can read it, then there's a problem. Such apps need to go back to preschool/kindergarten and learn to share.

-- GSH
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: AHadley on January 21, 2009, 06:40:30 AM
I'm running XP Media Center, no problems with BZ2. Could be the remote, as I never had one.
Title: Re: Vista and BZ2 problems
Post by: GSH on February 24, 2009, 05:07:06 AM
BZ2 isn't the only game affected by this. The Fallout3 wiki has some more thoughts on this subject -- see http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_console_commands#Other_bugs (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_console_commands#Other_bugs) . Maybe this'll help.

-- GSH