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Title: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: wugly on February 28, 2009, 11:47:33 AM
Its been a long time since I first played and I am in the stars and stripes missions.  the mission starts out to rescue the 5 th platoon but I find an old cargo ship and the mission changes.  I now have to investigaate the starport to find the database but my problem occurs when I see three buildings in the starport and none of them have the database in them.  I soon get removed from command for not following orders but I check every building and it can not be found.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: AHadley on February 28, 2009, 12:32:24 PM
I get this too. Anybody else know what's going wrong?
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: Avatar on February 28, 2009, 02:59:10 PM
Lol...  (not laughing AT you, laughing WITH you...)

This is the single most complained about SP mission stumble in the game, with the Mars Volcano mission being the second.

You have to approach each of the Starport buildings QUICKLY! and hit the "I" key.  You also must NOT have 'auto identify' turned on before you do this, it's one of the options and it breaks the script that checks for you Identifying each building.

If you don't Identify each building quickly you've failed to follow orders and better learn to love piloting a Scav...  :)

Battlezone I is a lot about knowing when to ignore orders and when to follow them quickly and blindly.  For the most part you have a couple of warnings when putting off following an order, but in this case you'd better move fast...

-Av-
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: AHadley on February 28, 2009, 04:41:48 PM
Please say you'll fix it in BZC... I'm sick of it, frankly.
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: Nielk1 on February 28, 2009, 07:44:35 PM
That is one of the bugs I am sure Avatar WONT be artificially replicating...
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: General BlackDragon on February 28, 2009, 08:15:40 PM
I got stuck in exactly the same place, but its because I thought, the objective told me to press the T key. instead of "I" it looked so similar i was stuck for a while...
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: AHadley on February 28, 2009, 08:21:57 PM
PEBKAC :lol:
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: bigbadbogie on February 28, 2009, 09:30:51 PM
When I was new to the game I got stuck on that for weeks. Now I just rush through and always get it.
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: Steeveeo on February 28, 2009, 09:35:32 PM
I somehow got it on the first try :P
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: Nielk1 on February 28, 2009, 11:14:31 PM
Quote from: Steeveeo on February 28, 2009, 09:35:32 PM
I somehow got it on the first try :P

Same
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: Avatar on February 28, 2009, 11:38:04 PM
Quote from: Nielk1 on February 28, 2009, 07:44:35 PM
That is one of the bugs I am sure Avatar WONT be artificially replicating...

Actually I sortof did... 

What I did was keep the pressure as in you only have a about 15 seconds once you approach the Starport area, throw up a "Use the "I" key to IDENTIFY each building" objective, and for all such places where you have to "I" something there's a feedback sound to let you know you've done it.  You have to do the same thing several other times in missions so I thought it a good idea to give you something to indicate you've done what they asked.

So you still have to hustle, but you get a reminder and some feedback when you accomplish the task.  Best I could do while staying in the spirit of the original.

Of course on HARD you have to deal with the automated defenses, but that's another story...  :evil:

-Av-
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: TheJamsh on March 02, 2009, 02:48:57 PM
BZC is the only chance im going to get to play BZ1. id refuse to got the illegal copy of the game purely because BZ2 general awesomeness. why go backwards?

SOOO looking forward to it.
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: VSMIT on March 02, 2009, 11:23:40 PM
You need to get BZ1, Jamsh.  There's nothing quite like it.

VSMIT.
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: Avatar on March 03, 2009, 01:06:28 AM
I agree completely...  my poor homage will do all it can to recreate the magic but you really owe it to yourself to play the original. 

While I applaud your desire to do right I myself have difficulty understanding the crime in preserving games that will never be for sale again.  I own two copies of BZ1, two copies of BZ2, one of TRO and one of Battlegrounds.  (I also have two copies of Hidden and Dangerous, two copies of Tribes and two of Tribes 2, so you see I do support legal copies of current games.) 

IOW if you can find a copy of BZ1, no matter what the origin, play it!  and commit to buying a copy whenever or wherever you can when you find one.

I cry when I think of how many copies of BZ1 and TRO have probably died horrible deaths in toy chests, the bottom of drawers, and trash cans across the country...  :(

-Av-
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: VSMIT on March 03, 2009, 02:32:39 AM
At one point I had 2 copies of it, since it came with a graphics card I got 2 of (For different computers, obviously).  I made two copies for archival purposes, and now I can't even find the originals.  It makes me a little sad.

VSMIT.
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: Avatar on March 03, 2009, 11:21:42 AM
It's one of the biggest problems of the electronic age, that our history is being thrown away due to either media life issues, compatibility issues, or legal/licensing issues.  (licenses, unless ad infinitum, are evil...)

Our history until this age has been concrete and relatively long-lived...  only now has it become disposable.

Let me put it this way:

You can easily read a book your great-great-great Grandfather brought with him on some ship almost 100 years ago, but you can't play the games I did when I was your age because you can't buy them, can't run the media they were on, or can't find the hardware that'll do the job.

It's a crime...

-Av, pre-coffee and drifting OT-
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: Nielk1 on March 03, 2009, 06:42:03 PM
Quote from: Avatar on March 03, 2009, 11:21:42 AM
You can easily read a book your great-great-great Grandfather brought with him on some ship almost 100 years ago, but you can't play the games I did when I was your age because you can't buy them, can't run the media they were on, or can't find the hardware that'll do the job.

Hence why I try to collect older hardware for those older media.
I've got to get my self a nice VCR, Beta, and LaserDisk when I have the money.
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: (AK)Sabre on July 20, 2009, 07:09:28 PM
Quote from: TheJamsh on March 02, 2009, 02:48:57 PM
BZC is the only chance im going to get to play BZ1. id refuse to got the illegal copy of the game purely because BZ2 general awesomeness. why go backwards?

You can find an "Xplosiv" branded BZ1 on eBay.  A friend had lost my original BZ1 discs, so I was forced to buy the game again.  It's the real game, the only difference is the splash menu when you put the disc in.
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: Nielk1 on July 20, 2009, 08:02:18 PM
IDK WTF my BZ1 disk is. Not for resale is all I know.
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: TheJamsh on July 21, 2009, 01:12:30 PM
My grammar in that post was appaling, and spelling.

I might get a copy of BZ1 from eBay in that case... so long as its legally available. Battlezone games are one of those series i would feel guilty illegally downloading because of the overall awesome factor.
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: Dx on July 26, 2009, 01:38:54 AM
Quote from: wugly on February 28, 2009, 11:47:33 AM
Its been a long time since I first played and I am in the stars and stripes missions.  the mission starts out to rescue the 5 th platoon but I find an old cargo ship and the mission changes.  I now have to investigaate the starport to find the database but my problem occurs when I see three buildings in the starport and none of them have the database in them.  I soon get removed from command for not following orders but I check every building and it can not be found.  Am I missing something?

Ok, the problem is it's not recognizing that you checked all the buildings with the "I" key.

I noticed that if your on win2k or newer OS and the fps is high, it messes up mission timers. If that is the case turn on vsync and set the monitors refresh rate at 60Hz.
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: AHadley on July 26, 2009, 10:22:21 AM
AFAIK we've already fixed it?
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: Fulmen on July 27, 2009, 04:00:43 PM
I never had any problems with identifying the buildings and so on. Back like 11-10 years ago when I was a kid, and didn't quite comprehend everything, I didn't realize you must use the I key to identify the Hephaestus, causing me to fail the mission already at that point. But that was because I didn't know how to. Nothing wrong with my game. Sad to see that people are having problems with theirs, though.
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: (AK)Sabre on July 27, 2009, 11:00:15 PM
Quote from: wugly on February 28, 2009, 11:47:33 AM
Its been a long time since I first played and I am in the stars and stripes missions.  the mission starts out to rescue the 5 th platoon but I find an old cargo ship and the mission changes.  I now have to investigaate the starport to find the database but my problem occurs when I see three buildings in the starport and none of them have the database in them.  I soon get removed from command for not following orders but I check every building and it can not be found.  Am I missing something?

It's already been said several times... Just turn off "Strategy Help" in the Game Options menu...  I remember having the same problem, and turning off Strategy Help solved all my problems.
Title: Re: stuck after finding the hespitus
Post by: Fixxxer on August 03, 2009, 12:20:38 AM
I ran into this problem too when I first started out.  Took me like a bajillion tries until I figured out that if you fly up to one of the structures and hit I key a few times then do the same at the other structures it solves the issue.  Kinda seemed like my first I attempt was missed by the computer.