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Title: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Ac/dc on March 25, 2009, 07:06:26 AM
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April Fools.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Nielk1 on March 25, 2009, 03:54:21 PM
It is not like there is a dedicated bz2 server, that would be preposterous. There are a few MASTER servers that list EVERY game, and as such, BZ2 only adds minimal server load. The only way that it would be removed would be if a large number of games, like all that use the old protocol, are removed. This is NOT going to happen unless they want a lot of hate from a lot of ppl.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Ac/dc on March 26, 2009, 02:46:41 PM
i spoke to him again today. he refered me to some other admin guy who pm'd me.

Quote from: Amazing0opah
Hi leNoobe

Its important that Gamespy players get the most out of their online experience, and also that the game's online community are accounted for as long as there are still players around. In recent months, despite the continuing uprising of PC gaming, Gamespy has had some minor economic downturns. We expect this will pass over the next twelve to eighteen months. Although, in the event of any considerable downturn, where some jobs may be lost, and in turn, some servers could potentially be shut down. Precedence of servers being shut down would be given to: 1. Older games, 2. Lower sized communities, 3. Communities that can exist without the servers. If the economic situation of Gamespy does get to that extent, these cuts could be made. Despite of this, please be reassured that we are confident of a strong recovery, without much further economic negatives.

Regards,

Amazing0opah.

@ feared_1, closest i can get to a link for the time being.
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April Fools.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Commando on March 26, 2009, 03:09:56 PM
If anything, 1.3 supports using different servers.  Unfortunately 1.2 lacks this feature.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Spawn on March 26, 2009, 03:47:57 PM
Some workaround could be made for 1.2 if another server is set up, but 1.3 would be much easier.
But I would think that gamespy usually contacts pandemic about major issues, so we would have some warning.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Zero Angel on March 26, 2009, 06:50:06 PM
Yes, but even if 1.3 can use a different server -- do we have the software to provide proper matchmaking from within the interface?
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Red Devil on March 26, 2009, 06:52:29 PM
Hamachi works pretty good.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: AHadley on March 26, 2009, 07:18:25 PM
Vets won't be happy if all this doesn't work...  :roll:
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Spawn on March 26, 2009, 07:58:48 PM
Vets will use msn and hamachi like they did every other time gamespy died for two days.

Two days is a long time to go without bz :P
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: AHadley on March 26, 2009, 08:11:31 PM
I can manage two months, but then the withdrawal symptoms set in...

I tend to twi-... twii-...

Twitch, thats it.

*twitch*
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Ego - Nikolas on March 26, 2009, 09:03:26 PM
And there is guy named Klag he make "klagspy" tool that replaces gs for bz2 1.2 maybe 1.3
So we got klagspy, gameranger, join by ip, hamachi, maybe some more tools that i cant recall atm.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Nielk1 on March 26, 2009, 09:24:16 PM
Yes, all tools that we have are also compatible with 1.3 .

Some day I will want to talk to Klang about some programming things. I just like the idea of having ppl like that to bounce ideas off of or ask questions.

I recently got a program that can give me a list of servers for ANY game on a master server, and can be redirected to another server. When I have time, I will see about making something usable from this. Perhaps a low impact web view of current games. (One of the reasons I would love to talk with Klang, he seems to know stuff about gamespy.)
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Spawn on March 26, 2009, 09:37:59 PM
klagspy was just an online monitor of ip's, a forum post could do the same thing.

N1 if you could see what requests that program sends and receives from gamespy then you could try and reverse engineer the gamespy master server protocall.

Or you could use gamespy 3D, add every player's ip to the offline server list and it should pick up any games even without the master server.

It wouldn't be impossible or even very difficult to get around gamespy being down, bz2 has been dead for a long time and even if another nail is added to the coffin we can still crowbar ourselves out of of it.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Nielk1 on March 26, 2009, 10:28:31 PM
IIRC Klang actually got some real Old Protocol software and was offering it only in the case of a shutdown to serious ppl.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Spawn on March 27, 2009, 12:17:05 AM
IIRC=Interactive Illinois Report Card?
Please explain :P
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Steeveeo on March 27, 2009, 12:23:08 AM
Quote from: Spawn on March 27, 2009, 12:17:05 AM
IIRC=Interactive Illinois Report Card?
Please explain :P
If I Recall Correctly
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Ego - Nikolas on March 27, 2009, 08:09:59 AM
Quote from: Spawn on March 26, 2009, 09:37:59 PM
klagspy was just an online monitor of ip's, a forum post could do the same thing.

N1 if you could see what requests that program sends and receives from gamespy then you could try and reverse engineer the gamespy master server protocall.

Or you could use gamespy 3D, add every player's ip to the offline server list and it should pick up any games even without the master server.

It wouldn't be impossible or even very difficult to get around gamespy being down, bz2 has been dead for a long time and even if another nail is added to the coffin we can still crowbar ourselves out of of it.

OFC. Klag uses master klagspy server, so he turn it off, no need to run it if GS working fine.

I send him files of data that client and gs comunicate while scaning for games, entering games, ECT..
Then for a while he made "klagspy" tool and was working okey and that was not final product

Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: AcneVulgaris on March 27, 2009, 09:47:05 PM
I think 1.2 will take a server IP as a command line argument....so at the very worst some kind of external matchmaker program could be made.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Spawn on March 28, 2009, 04:04:05 AM
Klagspy :P

But gamespy3D has all of this built in.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: OvermindDL1 on March 28, 2009, 07:54:38 PM
Quote from: AcneVulgaris on March 27, 2009, 09:47:05 PM
I think 1.2 will take a server IP as a command line argument....so at the very worst some kind of external matchmaker program could be made.

There are programs that can already do this then, many want an actual replacement gamespy server since it serves a great deal more information about what it going on instead of just saying 'there is a game at this IP'.
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Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Zero Angel on March 28, 2009, 10:00:23 PM
Thats pretty much what Klagspy does. You go to a webpage, click on 'I have a game up' and it posts your IP and a link to launch bz2 with the IP addy in the command line. It's not in-game matchmaking, nor provides any information like which players are in, what the map is, etc
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Nielk1 on March 29, 2009, 01:53:13 AM
Yes but I remember a post asking for ppl who were serious about hosting a GS MASTER SERVER with PM for software ONLY in the case GS again went down.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Feared_1 on March 29, 2009, 01:55:37 AM
Don't work too hard trying to reassure yourselves that everything will be okay if they turn it off. That's why they started thinking about it in the first place. They are watching us :evil:
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: AcneVulgaris on March 29, 2009, 11:04:32 PM
Well if they do pull the plug, there's plenty of talented people around that will plug it back in.  Fear not.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Void on March 31, 2009, 05:29:23 AM
sorta offtopic but i think filefront is closing down for a while
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: bigbadbogie on March 31, 2009, 10:39:23 AM
Quote from: Void on March 31, 2009, 05:29:23 AM
sorta offtopic but i think filefront is closing down for a while

Forever actually...
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: AHadley on March 31, 2009, 03:51:02 PM
I thought there was something going on with FileFront.... good riddance :P
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: bigbadbogie on March 31, 2009, 09:23:29 PM
They blame the economic crisis... but its probably really just the CEO who wants to retire with his huge paycheck. Just like all the others.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Commando on March 31, 2009, 09:40:32 PM
I wouldn't be surprised the economic situation hurts them if a majority of FileFront's revenue comes from advertising.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Nielk1 on March 31, 2009, 10:39:56 PM
Quote from: Commando on March 31, 2009, 09:40:32 PM
I wouldn't be surprised the economic situation hurts them if a majority of FileFront's revenue comes from advertising.

You mean like radio? I have not heard of any radio shows/stations being canceled.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Commando on March 31, 2009, 11:02:31 PM
I mean from advertising banners.  If customers are less likely to spend money, advertisers are less likely to pay as much for advertising space.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Nielk1 on March 31, 2009, 11:19:45 PM
Yep, meant the same.

Shame it is...
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Ac/dc on April 01, 2009, 01:06:46 PM
April Fools.
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: AHadley on April 01, 2009, 04:40:45 PM
Bloody big setup for an april fools  :lol:
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Feared_1 on April 01, 2009, 09:38:38 PM
This was an April Fool's joke too?

I'm gonna kill you...
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Zero Angel on April 01, 2009, 11:43:11 PM
Hahahaha! That's a good one ACDC. It reminds me of that time when I made a press release about Pandy starting development of BZ3 and posted it on various BZ2 forums.

It was funny, in a tragic sort of way.  :-(
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: Ac/dc on April 02, 2009, 06:17:09 AM
Quote from: Zero Angel on April 01, 2009, 11:43:11 PMIt reminds me of that time when I made a press release about Pandy starting development of BZ3 and posted it on various BZ2 forums.
that was the inspiration.  :-P
Title: Re: Rumours of Gamespy shutting down bz2 servers
Post by: AHadley on April 02, 2009, 06:50:36 AM
Evil joke :evil: