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Battlezone Universe => Battlezone 2 => Topic started by: appel on April 20, 2009, 11:57:01 PM

Title: BZ2 model usage
Post by: appel on April 20, 2009, 11:57:01 PM
I'm scratching my head a bit over these XSI models, there are many for each unit.

Let's take the sabre as an example:
- ivtank00.xsi
- ivtankL1.xsi
- ivtankL2.xsi

The ivtankL1.xsi seems to be something like a "flattened" model of ivtank00.xsi, while ivtankL2.xsi seems to be a low-poly model.

My main question is: How are these models used in the game? Is ivtank00.xsi used for position purposes only (lights, cockpit, exhaust etc.) while ivtankL1.xsi is used for in-game visuals?

Just want to get this right.
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: Warfreak on April 21, 2009, 12:01:17 AM
The model00.xsi's are the ACTUAL model you see ingame.

the modelL1/modelL2 are the LOD models, which you would see at certain distances. They are lower poly models of what the model would look like from a distance. They are ONLY pulled up to replace the actual model when a certain distance from you is reached. (and your object detail is below "High" in some cases)
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: bigbadbogie on April 21, 2009, 12:10:03 AM
They are designed to make the game run faster because it doesn't have to use as many polys at one time for distant units/buildings.

Scion units don't have LOD models because they are animated and that wouldn't work. Same with the ISDF walker.
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: Warfreak on April 21, 2009, 12:14:12 AM
The engine DOES however create an "lod" for them.

Essentially welds verts together as the unit gets further from view. :|
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: bigbadbogie on April 21, 2009, 12:17:36 AM
No it doesn't.

MRM Factor doesn't work.
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: appel on April 21, 2009, 12:21:23 AM
00 and L1 look virtually identical.
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: Warfreak on April 21, 2009, 12:22:54 AM
SURE AS HELL DOES, just look at an ISDF pilot from a distance.  (If it doesnt work in pb4a, it worked before)
HELL, turn object detail to LOW when Scions.

?, 00 and L1 should have some differences in the other vehicles. The purpose however stays the same.
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: appel on April 21, 2009, 12:57:06 AM
Any idea how I can convert ivtank00.xsi to a md5 format?
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: bigbadbogie on April 21, 2009, 01:02:52 AM
Use an old version of 3Dex and convert it to .3DS.

Import that to 3D Studio Max, and then export it to MD5.
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: Nielk1 on April 21, 2009, 05:49:53 AM
ODFs must call in the LOD xsis btw.
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: appel on April 21, 2009, 09:46:54 AM
Quote from: bigbadbogie on April 21, 2009, 01:02:52 AM
Use an old version of 3Dex and convert it to .3DS.

Import that to 3D Studio Max, and then export it to MD5.

I can convert it to 3DS using Virtual Hemisphere. I don't have 3D Studio Max though, but I can get it.

What I'm mainly worried about is that I can't export to MD5 because the models don't have any bones! I don't know sht about 3D modeling, so, I'm doooomed.
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: TheJamsh on April 21, 2009, 01:22:52 PM
why would you want to convert it then lol?
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: appel on April 21, 2009, 05:14:02 PM
Quote from: TheJamsh on April 21, 2009, 01:22:52 PM
why would you want to convert it then lol?

I want to use only MD5, because that's the format the engine supports primarily that I'm using.
Title: Re: BZ2 model usage
Post by: TheJamsh on April 21, 2009, 07:09:57 PM
oh gotcha.

be sure you dont use the models commercially... you might get a severe backhand from activision if you were caught, along with a large fine.