Hey Guys,
is there a 1.3 public beta 4 out there without the techalpha 5 stuff, as it doesnt run with that patch :(
The previous patch to TA5 is called PB4a -- however keep in mind that most players are on 1.2 or TA5 so you wont have very many joiners in your games.
Check bzscrap.com for it
Oh dear god! my eyes :-o
yeah im only looking for it for lan play :) Still cant seem to find the file, or im looking in the wrong spot...
ops nm i found it! Thanks :)
i dont get it... whats the point in running pb4a when TA5 is available. Its amazing how many people cant understand that TA5 IS Public Beta 5.
PB4a has no DX9.
Also PB4a is a lot similar to PB3, which is similar to PB2, which is similar to PB1, which is similar to 1.2, wich is similar to 1.1, which is similar to the 1.1 betas, and ultimately which is similar to 1.0. :D
My fist is about to be similar to your face.
yeh arby wtf?
because ta5 doesnt run!
and so it seems neither does beta 4 after testing :(
Its always best to run old programs on old machines... :-D
If you can't get it to run it's because of 5 essential things not taking place: (It says TA5, but applies to ALL 1.3 Versions)
1. Latest DX9 is NOT installed properly/at all on your computer.
2. Latest Runtimes included with the TA5 Installer are not installed properly/at all on your computer.
3. TA5 is not installed properly/at all on your computer.
4. Your hardware cannot run TA5 properly/at all. (Get a build of 1.2 on your pc to play online, only "old" version used.)
5. You cannot debug your issue properly/at all.
SO, either post some logs, describe your problem, or install 1.2 IF you truly can't get TA5 working. (or get a new computer :P)
1. Latest DX9 is NOT installed properly/at all on your computer.
check dx10.1 :D
2. Latest Runtimes included with the TA5 Installer are not installed properly/at all on your computer.
check
3. TA5 is not installed properly/at all on your computer.
check
4. Your hardware cannot run TA5 properly/at all. (Get a build of 1.2 on your pc to play online, only "old" version used.)
check
5. You cannot properly debug your issue properly/at all.
yep its a windows 7 issues
Quote from: Gibbz on August 08, 2009, 02:30:50 PM
1. Latest DX9 is NOT installed properly/at all on your computer.
check dx10.1 :D
DX10 does not necessarily include ALL components of DX9c. BZ2 may call on an old dll file from DX9 that isn't in DX10 for instance. There are a few games that require an install of DX9 seperate from DX10. Not sure if BZ2 is one of these.
However, what issues are you having? Does the game crash, does it not load, does it give an error message?
Does 1.2 Battlezone 2 install correctly and work?
Win7? I think we've had a handful test TA5 on Win7 and it apparently worked fine for them.
I'd go with what Vid said and install DX9. I personally downloaded DX9 separately for TA5.
post a log gibbz. 9 times out of ten its missing DX9 components.
DirectX 9 has an update every quarter (3 months). There's a new Direct3D DLL that comes out with that. I don't know if DirectX 10/10.1/whatever auto-installs every DirectX 9 update. That's why you should not skip out of the DX9 installer that the 1.3ta5 installer runs. Let it do its thing.
And if you're still having problems, post a log. We can't see what's on your screen. Help us help you by providing as much detail as possible.
-- GSH
As an avid player of old games I've always wondered if it's safe to allow an older version to install when running a newer version... and Googling it doesn't seem to give me a clear answer to that question.
So, if you're running Dx10 and an old game wants to install Dx6 is it OK to allow it to do so? I'm under the impression that each version of Direct X provides backward compatible files so it shouldn't be necessary, but I've run into games that insist and don't run if you don't allow the install...
-Av-
It should be fine to install older versions, newer versions should work most of the time though.
DX9 and DX10 are the only solid fact I know of however by example. You can install both and must install both for some older games vs newer games. However I don't work for microsoft, so I can't tell you officially.
DX doesnt provide backward compatibility at all, which is unfortunate and a bit strange, but hey what ya gna do?
Hrm, then some games must not be version dependant, and only require DirectX itself, not a specific version? I though I had seen some older DX games run on newer DX9/etc.
this is the error with 1.3 b4a
---- Battlezone II Log File ----
//=====================================================
App version: Patch 1.3pb4a Aug 4 2008 12:08:55
Windows version: Windows Version: 5.1.2600 'Service Pack 2' PlatformID=2
Last few battlezone.log lines (may or may not be relevant):
DIAG|GLOBAL | filesrcpack:395 |09:15:29|856 | Offset = 0x11CAAA9E(298494622) / 0x11CAAA9E/298494622. Handle: 00000208
ERR |Debug | debug:715 |09:15:29|856 |.\filesrcpack.cpp(396)
ERR |Debug | debug:716 |09:15:29|856 |Wed Jul 2 22:54:55 2008
ERR |Debug | debug:717 |09:15:29|856 |Error reading 97 bytes (got 2) from pack file 'd:\games\Battlezone II\data.pak'. Offset = 0x11CAAA9E(298494622) / 0x11CAAA9E/298494622
(done)
Exception code: 40000015 {Fatal Application Exit}
%hs
Message : Unhandled Exception
Error occurred at 8/9/2009 09:15:34.
D:\Games\Battlezone II\bzone.exe, run by Bronson.
4 processor(s), type 586.
Process Memory : 1862 MB free out of 2048 MB total
Physical memory: 2868 MB free out of 4095 MB total
Page(swap) file: 6770 MB free out of 8188 MB total
Fault address: 00A7347C 01:0017247C D:\Games\Battlezone II\bzone.exe
Registers:
EAX:00000000
EBX:00000001
ECX:00000000
EDX:00000000
ESI:04E25FF8
EDI:04E2600C
CS:EIP:2780023:00A7347C
SS:ESP:73002B:006CF07C EBP:006CF08C
DS:002B ES:002B FS:764D0053 GS:6C002B
Flags:00000202
Call stack:
Address Return Function SourceFile
00A7347C 00000000 00A6CEB0 Debug::Error::Err+0x0000010C
00A6CEB0 00000000 00A6D39A FileSys::FileSrcPack::ReadData+0x00000100
00A6D39A 00000000 00A6D55D FileSys::FileSrcPack::FileSrcPack+0x0000020A
00A6D55D 00000000 00A6A0BD FileSys::BuildFileSrcPack+0x0000001D
00A6A0BD 00000000 00A6A3C5 FileSys::AddSrcPack+0x0000000D
00A6A3C5 00000000 00A6A803 FileSys::AddSrcStream+0x000002A5
00A6A803 00000000 00A7E918 FileSys::ProcessConfigScope+0x00000093
00A7E918 00000000 00A7E6D7 Main::ScopeHandler+0x00000148
00A7E6D7 00000000 0095BA79 Main::Exec+0x000000A7
0095BA79 00000000 00AC5045 Main::ExecInitialConfig+0x00000028
00AC5045 00000000 00A7E473 Setup::StartupConfiguration+0x00000135
00A7E473 00000000 0095B504 Main::CoreSystemInit+0x00000153
0095B504 00000000 0095B28D HandledMain+0x00000362
0095B28D 00000000 00958BC8 HandledMain+0x000000EB
00958BC8 00000000 00A6DBFD WinMain+0x00000059
00A6DBFD 00000000 75BE3677 fabs+0x00000191
75BE3677 00000000 77AF9D72 BaseThreadInitThunk+0x00000012
77AF9D72 00000000 77AF9D45 RtlInitializeExceptionChain+0x00000063
77AF9D45 00000000 00000000 RtlInitializeExceptionChain+0x00000036
See the sticky thread for login problems w/ vista/win7 on this board. Same fixes need to be done to pb4a, even though the symptoms differ.
-- GSH
ive been using TA5 and subsequent betas on windows 7 64 without issue,
As a precaution i install to \users\username\games\battle zone 2
and ensure my username has full control over its contents
this helps get around any unwanted UAC issues but i don't think that is even necessary anymore but old habits and what not!
Also, using the DX update tool will update all missing DLLs for direct X, if you ran it you will have all the DLLs available.