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GSH  I just want to say thank you very much for all you hard work. DX9 patch works just fine for me. 

Sorry to hear that, I'm starting to think that G9x cards have some sort of hardware design flaw. There isn't much difference, essentially a die shrink of the G80 + some other minor tweaks. Since they don't give a you know what about older games support, they simply did not test them extensively as they should have. Just look at ATI, they decided that 16bit dithering hardware support is no longer needed, leaving many gamers in the cold. I hope it just a software glitch, but then again we will never know for sure. I'm glad at least my 8800GTS works for the most part, but sadly not all of my games work properly and most likely never will. So I feel your pain.

Did a quick 180.48 WHQL Driver test, and it looks like NVIDIA put back some of the old game support for the final release. Surprise, surprise, never seen that happening before. Played BZ games among others and it appears that they are functioning properly, but I must confess I did not test them for more then 10min. Still no fix for Battlefield games, so I'm back to 177.92.
I guess if do not play Battlefield games then do try 180.48 to see if they work with G9X and up cards.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_180.48_whql.html

There's a copy of the old faq on my forum but it really needs gone over, bad links and the info needs updated.

It would be a great idea to have our old [Sticky] Tech Support Help FAQ, with more recent info that is..

That is the GTS, not the GT.  I thought the GTS did not really have any issues with BZ2, just the GT?
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You know I'm not 100% positive about that. I think older drivers worked fine with BZ2 on GTS, but when I tried 180 beta it creates white garbage all over my screen. Nvidia might change few things here and there before final version. However, knowing how they operate my hopes are very low. BTW I'm on WinXP, so I don't have a clue if BZ games are working properly with 177.XX on Vista.
Funny, they finally fixed Aliens vs. Predator bug; I can now play it with my DX10 card. lol.

Well, got myself 8800GTS 640MB card for $89. BZ1 and BZ2 work really well with ForceWare 177.92.  I'm very surprised to see that most of my old games are working with them.  Tried new 180.43 beta and they are complete pile of garbage. Whatever you do, avoid them like a plague. Massive corruption in all BZ and Battlefield games, just to name a few. I'm going to stick with 177.92 for a now.
Oh and if anyone is interested to try 177.92 you can get them here http://downloads.guru3d.com/GeForce-Forceware-XP-177.92-32-bit-download-2042.html

Speaking of 200 series cards, the 280 is working fine with me - 177.83 drivers (vista 64 bit). No problems here, I can play with all settings max (shadows disabled), including sky at max settings, and everything ran fine.

Wow awsome news . How about BZ1 on 280? What other older games you have?
Thanks.

Has anybody tried BZ with the GTX 200 or the HD 4800 yet?  I would like to know if those worked right, if at all.

VSMIT.

Yes, please can someone verify that? My X1950XT mysteriously died two days ago, so I'm stuck with 7800GTX for now, it plays fine with older drivers, but getting choppy in newer games.... If ATI or NVIDIA fixed there drivers then I can finally jump to DX10 cards.
Thanks in advance.

@OvermindDL1 Have you tried Catalyst 7.11? It works really good with my X1950XT and X1950Pro Cards. No problems at all with any of my games. Catalyst 8.4 are terrible, completely broke OpenGl in Freespace and stuttering like crazy in AvP 1.

@Steeveeo
If you are looking for older drivers then look at http://downloads.guru3d.com/ they have old as well as new drivers.
Hope that helps.

Old game support counts for *zero* in the reviews at all the usual newssites. Only whether you play game of the month 1.2 fps faster, or 1.3. Maybe complaints need to be directed at ATI, nVidia, and whatever review sites you read.

-- GSH

Please believe me, I had to argue for over a year with NVIDIA corporate office regarding old game support; they simply do not care about your "OLD" games. NVIDIA refused to acknowledge the problem with there drivers, instead they blame game developers for there own mistakes. Heck, they even refused to fix the bug that was causing problem with QuickTime. http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=37997 I know, because many of us had directly contacted ATI and NVIDIA and the only thing you get from them is "Oh well the game is too old anyway, not our fault, game developer made a mistake and they should fix it", or some other nonsense like that... The only thing they care is +.2FPS in Crysis or whatever.
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=34842&st=0
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=9382
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=35500


BTW, what happened to these forums? What happened to the BZ1?

A few people had that problem in bz1.

ATI's HD cards droped all support for dx5 but dx6 games like bz2 still worked. Talking to ATI tech support was useless sense they refused to pass on the info to their driver development team.

Has bz2 had any nvidia/zbuffer issues?

I have to agree with DX on this one. I also had HD3870 and ATI droped http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=6927 the entire legacy supports on there DX10 cards. Not just BZ1 but a pretty much all DX5-7 games no longer work on HD cards. So I dumped it got myself X1950Pro and my entire games collection work fine now. Unfortunately NVIDIA is just as bad; there own forums are packed with complaints regarding old games support. Sadly none of them: ATI or NVIDIA give a damn about old game support.