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this is basically a place to post some interesting wikipedia articles you may find and discuss them. I'll start with a very interesting piece I came across:

A Chthonian planet (pronounced /ˈkθoʊniən/, sometimes misspelled Cthonian), is a hypothetical class of celestial objects resulting from the stripping away of a gas giant's hydrogen and helium atmosphere and outer layers. Such atmospheric stripping is a likely result of proximity to a star. The remaining rocky or metallic core would resemble a terrestrial planet in many respects.[1]

HD 209458b (Osiris) is an example of a planet that is in the process of having its atmosphere stripped away, though it is not itself a Chthonian planet nor is it expected to become one in the near future.

COROT-7b may be the first Chthonian planet discovered.[2]

Chthonia χθων means "of the Earth" in Greek. The term was coined by Hébrard et al., since the term Chthonian generally refer to Greek deities from hot infernal underground.

If you have not heard of them, they are a rising alternative rock/ post grundge back from Pennslyvania who just recently released in album back in September. They are pretty good and have a cool bassist. They tend to focus more on softer songs, especially on their most recent album, which is sad as lead singer Ben Burnley has a voice more suited towards a heavier tone, especially live. Also a shame that their solo's are very small when they have such a talented guitarist. Any other fans?  Discuss

                                                                 --Iron Maiden

He is awesome, almost as good as Iron Maiden. Discuss?

This is just sort of a thread to discuss musical instruments, songs, debate, favorite instrument, etc. I will start.

Well, yeah, I play bass guitar and am self taught. I consider myself pretty good knowing a few songs within a few months, amongst my life's constant chaos. I believe people constantly put down the bass, just because you can't play some guitar solo does not mean it is not a bad instrument. I use a Fender J bass but have my eyes set on the Nixxi Sixx and Steve Harris custom models, and a Gibson cherry-wood EB-O.

And you all?

It is what the title says, thread is now open for posts and debate, have fun!

Anyone see the show, looking forward to the remake? Watched first two episodes and it is very good.

                                    Discuss, if there is one to be had.
[I know, "ugh, Iron Maiden"], the song based on the series:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkBd3FD1GRY

I was reading Avatar's prehistory, the part about the cthonians and became caught on a small sentence fragment: "dropping Biometal 'seeds' from orbit. "

I immediately thought of War of the Worlds and how, like in the prehistory, the seeds landed near towns and unleashed the terrible war machines which were near unstopable. It occurred to me that one could actually make a mod and perhaps change the history of battlezone with this idea? WHAT IF, the martian tripods really were bio-metal war machines that landed on Earth? Perhaps the British could have been the first to look at bio-metal and could have a secret lab somewhere.    Just throwing it out there.

Pretty self explanatory. I personally like maps with canyons and either a Tranquility, Dark planet, or Mire type atmosphere.

Et vous..................?

So, how many characters will we have? If so, i recommend Howard Donaldson for the protagonist, just because I like the name.

Seeing as it that the story is coming along nicely, the scion flagship is being named, and other suggestions are being put through, i think it would be fair enough to get back on the topic of naming the third Cthonian faction. Now, i know that the previous topic started by Mr.X and the story post thread have become a place for constant bickering over the subject so I'll make it short and sweet. Each person that wishes to will post
ONE!!!!!!! suggestion in the thread and three days after this post those suggestions will be put into a poll for the community to vote on.

PLEASE NOTE: Be very careful with which suggestion you put forth. If the suggestion immediately refers to a common object or piece of literature etc.[i.e the Neil Armstrongii] it will immediately be put down.

My own suggestion: The Thenoxii, referring to the suggestion of the Phoenix symbol in the Mr.X thread relating to the third faction.

You know, i was thinking, what if Activision re-released Battlezone. But consider this, a re-release of Battlezone in the Battlezone 2 engine[enter Battlezone Classic mod] and with Battlezone 2 released on the 1.3 patch, perhaps even FE on 1.3. It could be a huge success.

Any thoughts?

Hey all, i reinstalled the old Battlezone earlier today and everythging is in working order except for one thing, my HUD continues to falter! Basically, it does not show my targeting display, shows nothing on my radar, except short blips lasting a mere second. And my command interface fails to show me which unit i am commanding once i command it and i do not get a line that runs down showing that unit on radar.

Any ideas?

In an attempt to get the community into an interesting discussion, a simple question:

What is the best battlezone game? Battlezone, Battlezone II, Red Odyssey, or Forgotten Enemies

My choice would have to be BZII. The graphics are much better than the original plus you can command a lot more ships than before. couple that with a rich storlina and awesome new weapons, it beats down the original with relative ease.

--not to say the original wasn't good.

--Iron Maiden

Hey all,

I have been trying to find all the info  can on the new mod coming up, Hidden Enemies. Unfortunately, i have not found much and it looks very interesting, does anyone have any info on it?

-Iron maiden

Hello, again everyone. I mentioned this idea in the mod squad thread and decided to make it. this thread is for the use of people to pitch mod idea's, post ship models, give opinion's on mods, anything mod related.

Please note to be courteous to other people's idea's.

i will be posting my first idea as soon as i get it completely worked out.

-Iron maiden

I figured it would be a good idea to create a thread where people could discuss their favorite Battlezone 2 and forgotten enemies missions and how you go about them. Makes for an interesting read.

I'll post my first favorite for now and post the other later.:

My favorite mission is the FE mission Sheep's clothing I go about it by:

Setting my turrets up on the small hill where you begin, place the regular scouts near where you appear, and place the tanks to the side of my hammers. i then have both  service trucks repair me quickly and then i zip out to intercept the first few incoming xypos'. I find if you take to initial three or four that come at you, it temporarily slows down the attack, giving your side more time. As i fight these, i find that my missile scouts come near me to aid, resulting in me having to bring them back to my forces. After this, the Xares and hedoux will attack along with a few more Xypos', if your force has suffered little damage, you should be able to quickly repel the Hedoux and drive off the Xares,[during the fray you are probobly going to need to head behind the hammers to get repaired.]As i take out the Xares i run into a bit of a snag, the Walkers are getting close and the Zeus' are on their way. If the walkers stop where the plateau makes the turn towards the incoming forces, the photon torpedoes of your hammers can do quite a bit of damage. If,[and that's a big if.] you kill at least one of the walkers, your job just got a heck of a lot easier. the zeus' on the other hand are a very big problem. Their high powered weaponry do a number on my units and are tricky to make a dent in. If I you survive through those, I'm usually dealing with the locusts as the attack force has has lost most of its units by now, this will also be around the time "Wessex" will come on the radio. I immediately zip down the trail and leave the remainder of my force behind to hold off the remaining force. I rush through the portal with about thirty seconds left on the clock and repair myself while the recycler takes off down the path. i take out the patrolling scouts with ease and wait for the recycler and transport to make it to the next plateau. I simply drop down and head towards the ship yard when ordered and snipe the two turrets nearby. I usually get off the second shot just as my transport passes me by. i then let the pilots take command of their vehicle's head back with me to the recycler. with plenty of fire power at my disposal, i take out the two spike's and turrets guarding the portal and wait for my reclcler to pass through, destroying the krull that pops out the other side.

I believe that the main problem in human society is in fact how far we have come. Our medical advances are capable of extending human life to twice and in rare instances three times as long as our shorter living ancestors about 10'000 years ago. This in turn causes less people to die off every year than normal, which results in dangerous expansion of a species that is currently incapable of deporting its population to others habitable celestial bodies. The second main problem is our advances in weaponry. Although we would like to see otherwise, we are still the descendants of the barbarians we call cavemen. The unwashed barbarians who were constantly fighting. All sentient life has the urge to fight over something, which is why so many different groups of people do not get along ie: Christians and Darwinians, Conservatives and liberals, England against France. With such incredible weaponry, our primevil urge for battle and feelings of hatred towards one another can have deadly affects on more people now then during roman or medieval times. Humanity must find away to put aside its differences and form some sort of human collective. We can no longer simply call ourselves American's and Russians, French and English, German's and Poles, Chinese or Japanese, we must unite under a single, temporary flag of union to save not just the planet but our own race. or die wishing we had.

sorry i have to keep asking for help here guys but i am not that much of a techno whiz. okay my problem is that i downloaded FE with the single down load mechanisim but when i play,
A. when i try to play the campaign, a message comes up saying that the game is trying to connect to something and has failed to do it in a unusual way. then, when i press okay, it brings to a single box that says battlezone two surrounded by dashes, then, i am forced to hit quit and FE ends.
B. when i play instant action, it does not give me the list of maps or which race to play as.

i'd appreciate the help.

hey veryone, i finnaly got the 1.3 patch to download but when i play an instant action game, i can't move, steer, fire issue any commands ar anything, any ideas?

this forum has been created for the discussion of british heavy metal band iron maiden and things relating hereto. if you have nothing good to say about the band i encourage you not to write it and keep it to yourself. The first topic for discussion is what you think of the Di'anno era[Iron maiden and Killers.] I have nothing bad to say abot the albums. both contain several classics:

Iron maiden
Phantom of the opera
Running free
Santuary
Translyvania
killers
Wrathchild

Just to name my personal favorites. what do you think of the first two albums?

Up the Irons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!