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To see if things can change, all you need to do is take a quick peek at the spock's server most any time during the day.  While I'm currently banned,  I would wager the price of several BZ CDs that you'll find him and the guy paying for the server, posing well known BZ player names and responding as that player to cause angst and animosity.

I saw myself posed yesterday, twice, once as my forum username and as my Youtube name.
I'm gonna give this whole thing a break for a while. It's too petty to devote my time to anymore. So if anyone does get angst from 'Baldrick' it's not me. I'm washing my hands of it.

I had my disc working this morning, So i decided to purge BZ98. However I changed something and now The game runs from my disc, but all the vehicles are solid black, and the FPS is less that 20. Any ideas anyone?

The version of TRO Spock gives away. Is that modified at all? Or is it pretty much untouched?

I think the last version was O, then it became 'BZ98' this is common to all those who use free forums, the L was the last one that was backed by Battlezone Club I believe. I got kicked partly for having an opinion. (I was actively told I HAVE NO OPINION) and partly because I called bz98 a modified version of 1.4. 1.4 is the stock game as it was last released by Activision. this is What the readme on my version from my disc, (this is the Xplosiv version, they used to rerelease older games at low price in the UK and Europe, as such it was probably the last version to be released for sale) says:

Battlezone Patch 1.4 Information

The patch has now successfully updated your version of Battlezone to have
the following features:

General Fixes

* More anti-cheating measures have been implemented.

* Bugs regarding compatibility with DirectX 6.0 have been fixed.

Once again, thanks to everyone who helped out and to all our loyal Battlezone fans.

The Battlezone Team

The version released by Spock is 1.4 with some fixes and a lot of extra maps. I don't know exactly what was fixed or how, I'm just a player, not a programmer.

Don't use ACT, if you have, uninstall it. It stopped me at first. from what I hear it's a bit random whether it will or not and it may be graohics card linked. I just installed BZ from my Xplosiv disc version. It worked fine. Need to change the mouse settings tho. So far I've had no luck with Ken's version of the exe past the point where you hit 'launch', as soon as the actual game begins it crashes for me.

I just installed BZ off my disc, it worked fine straight off in 7, I run Nvidia, so i get the radar issues.
To run it I did have to select to run in administrator mode, run in 640x480 and I had to run in compat mode for Windows NT4.0, ( I don't know why it just seems to always work, and run the videos better.)

This long term ongoing kerfluffle has gotten very tiresome. I propose a general truce on all sides. If thru PM's it can be worked out, I recommend that all bans be lifted - Spock can be reinstated on this board and BZC, and in return he must agree to unban everyone on his forums and discontinue his practice of arbitrary banning. From there, we can see how people's behavior progresses. If everyone treads lightly for awhile, than the provisional truce can remain in effect. If not, I guess we would be back to where we are now. The current state of affairs is not good, however. There is too much negative energy floating around.

I don't think Spock'll do it. I got banned from there mainly because I posted here, I don't think he'd come back now after climbing on his high horse

BTW, SSuser, Thankyou for producing Hell's gate 2, it took me ages. Really really fun challenge.

yes It appears I'm out of Spock's empire now.
I tried to get back in, but got enough insults in the process so I told him where to stick it. He threatened to kick me from the server about 6 times and never did it. So it would appear he isn't actually able to do that.

What happened was...
Neilk1 posted his post as it appears on this forum. i thought this was a fair comment and myself and Spork answered it coherently and with reasonable points. mainly that BZ98 is in essence the original game, with some slight fixes ( my actual word on there was modifications) and that we don't like some of the changes made in BZE, mainly the different vehicles and factories, and personally the lack of single player campaign.
These comments, and Neilk1's original message were duly deleted. and it was made clear that the topic was not for debate, just there to slag off this forum. (which I think has been quite fair on Spock's forum, no lies you tell it as it is.)
I complained to SPock saying he shouldn't just delete those sort of things, as that was EXACTLY what he slags off this forum for doing. I pointed out the hypocrisy. I was duly banned.


I had an ongoing argument with him over email, He was his usual self. It came to a head on the server and I told him where to go.
Luckily for me I quite like BZ2...

On the other hand, Spock's profligate use of the banhammer to maintain "ideological purity" on his site isn't doing his cause any favours.  "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers..."

Exactly.

Nielk1

I liked your post on freeforums. I thought it was actually constructive and showed a willingness to see 'our' point of view. But my reply and Spork's which were both answering the questions you posed were removed.
When I questioned this removal on the grounds of hypocrisy. I too joined the hallowed hall of banned Battlezoners.

On a more constructive note, I am still interested in helping Ultraken in testing BZ on Windows 7, As I am one of the relative few it seems who can play BZ1 on 7.