Ideas for foundations of the story

[iron maiden]

I agree, I believe time travel would just get to confusing and that is part of what brought the project to a stand still. I would go for what I had earlier and use a long range worm hole or near light speed type engine to get to the far off planet, should we keep it when we get back to production.

[Zero Angel]

Do not use this thread to eliminate ideas or vote on which ideas are best or worst. That is not the purpose of this thread!

[iron maiden]

Pardon me ZA, but is the threads title not "Ideas for foundations of the Story"? We are here to find which ideas will work and which won't, and I do not think time travel will work.

[Nielk1]

And, it looks like this thread is going to have 2 or 3 ppl try to take complete control like other threads, throwing out ideas and promoting only their own.

Give ideas, don't trash them.

[iron maiden]

I am not  just simply trashing the idea, I'm just saying that time travel would not be the wisest idea for the project,  I believe that it was you yourself said that time travel had to many loopholes and was difficult to work with.

And since you asked for more, here are some more ideas of mine:

A. A planetary implosion, a nice change from from usual destruction of planets.

B. Smaller factions located on the planet/planets you fight on. Not neccisarily a different faction, but kinda like a fifedom that broke away from the kingdom so to speak.

C. A much longer range missile defense system.

D. Some form of very large, aquatic, battleship type craft.

E. Again, black holes, love 'em

[Clavin12]

Maybe sum1 should be compiling these into a list as we go. I can do that. Oh, and...


What if instead of a planetary implosion something much less extreme but much creepier: a super disease.

[iron maiden]

Oh, wait, I know I love black holes nad just remembered an interesting thing I saw on the show the Universe, and yes, this was also in Star Trek.

Use a black hole to cause the planet the implode and vanish, awesome!

[bb1]

Shockers- make the "bad guys" Even more loathsome
Multi-faceted- Separation of bad for the hell of being bad and the qualities that press them to be "bad"
   sub- Hadeans were bad for the hell of being bad. Scions were bad because of necessary actions and misleading info.
Vengeful main character- The main character didn't "join up" for a job or cowboy in space, he/she has alterior motives.
Chain of command- High ranking officer ineffective, another steps up and overthrows him/her.

[Clavin12]

Bad for the hell of being bad is not good for stories at all.

Oh and to Iron Maiden: If you stick your feet in your mouth and swallow you disappear! It's just amazing!

[Nielk1]

Bad is a term with no meaning. Morality and social tradition is all that gives it value. To be bad for the sake of being bad is wrong, what you are saying is that they are for the sake of being. As we do not know the meaning of life, this whole thing is rather moot.

[bb1]

"what you are saying is that they are for the sake of being"

I say no such thing. I say they can't just be "Hadean Bad" and go killing...warlike race is dull and unattractive. Maybe there are reasons behind what they do to make the player think they are to be fired upon. Then the player has to decide if firing at them is the right way...that's the distinction.

[Nielk1]

"what you are saying is that they are for the sake of being"

I say no such thing. I say they can't just be "Hadean Bad" and go killing...warlike race is dull and unattractive. Maybe there are reasons behind what they do to make the player think they are to be fired upon. Then the player has to decide if firing at them is the right way...that's the distinction.

I was clearly addressing Clavin. I have NO IDEA how you could think I meant you when I clearly had no issue with your note. I was simply specifying that morality is what sets what a group does as good or bad in their own eyes. Nazis, by their morals, were good, but not by ours.

[Clavin12]

Bad is a term with no meaning. Morality and social tradition is all that gives it value. To be bad for the sake of being bad is wrong, what you are saying is that they are for the sake of being. As we do not know the meaning of life, this whole thing is rather moot.

We'll see. But then this shouldn't be discussed here. Even so there should be a motive.

[bb1]

Quotes help dissolve such ambiguity. Moving on.

Nationalities: Our planet has multiple nations and factions, what's to say other planets don't? If you go to another species homeworld, expect many many different factions/nationalities with different levels/styles/types of tech. Might be fun to hint upon but not get into too deeply; lest the CP take years and years upon years to develop.

[Nielk1]

The more alien something is, the less the little differences are noticed. They can however be useful though,