Mapmaking - Paths for IA

[bigbadbogie]

wouldnt it actually be smarter to remove them for vets because then that would be unexpected?

[GreenHeart]

wouldnt it actually be smarter to remove them for vets because then that would be unexpected?

eh, pb3 was released awhile ago.  pb4 has been released yet.  The vets should be able to figure out where the enemies will come from just by looking at the layout of the terrain.  If the map make puts in enough stage points then you'll  never know which direction you'll  get attacked by next.  before you start complaining my maps, just be thankful i'm not using the g66 dll with the maps I create, otherwise  it might take more than two hours to defeat them.

[Avatar]

I can beat your maps in much less than that if I just keep making APC's...  hole up in your base and just keep sending in APCs...  use the scrap from the massive attack waves to make more APCs and send them in from all directions...  works like a charm.

GAIPS, otoh, doesn't fall for this as the AI throws things back up again as fast as you take them down.  The most evil thing Natty has is the AI Constructors...  and the blatant, 'we don't worry about scrap' is in your face all the time...

This is not intended as criticism, nor should in any way make you change the 'Greenheart' maps.  I love them, and the pre-placed defenses make for a different challenge than a GAIPS map.  It wouldn't be the same if the AI tossed them all back up again, as then the maps would be pretty much unplayable.

Getting back to path points, the whole point of playing MPI is to get the AI as close to being a human player (without the attitude) as possible.  Using staging and hold points is one way of doing this.  A good commander won't just keep tossing units at you straight from his base, he'll mix and match and hit you from all over.  I personally like the feel of a map with well-placed staging points as it makes the AI seem like a busy army out to destroy you.

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[Zero Angel]

Agreed. I like how in G66 Iceberg how the AI will stage units out to the outer regions of the map behind your base and hit your base with a nicely coordinated pincer.

[Red Devil]

ZTV Death Ray has a Bomber Blocker that kills any aircraft sent towards the AI base.  It also has boulders rolling down the hills, etc.  Love it.

[TheJamsh]

is G66 not included within pb3 anyway? if not does it work with it?

help wanted =]

[OvermindDL1]

G66 Version 2 works with 1.3, and is even more hellish.   There are beta's of it around on the G66 board here I think.

[GreenHeart]

is G66 not included within pb3 anyway?

Eh, g66 was never added to the 1.3 patch however g66 2.o was release seperatly. All the 1.3 public beta releases use the mpi stock dll & stock13 aip files.  The public beta release do however contain some maps i've created that were orginally setup to be harder & last a lot longer.  The GreenHeart type mpi maps were included in the public Betas since they caused alot more beta testing to take place & were fun to play.  I'd really hate to see how hard those greenheart type mpi maps would get with the g66 mod.

[TheJamsh]

i played it today... freakin awesome!

at first i thought it was AI improvement in all areas... including instant games.. apparently not...

the maps are good too

[OvermindDL1]

G66 is *very* dll based, and he only works on multi-dlls, so yea.

[TheJamsh]

i am somewhat confused however, on the AIP selection screen, we have the "stock 1.3 DLL's" (this is in instant skirmish mode btw)

easy
standard
hard
extreme
insane

are THESE the G66 AIP's/DLL's for 1.3pb3?

[OvermindDL1]

Nope, none of them are related to G66 (as stated G66 is *very* dll based), just different AI's that members around here have themselves made.
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[Red Devil]

Download/install the zip in the G66 for 1.3 All-In-One thread in the PB3 board. It pulls in the right .CFG's and the G66 AIP's.