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Hey, would you look at that. It's story time! PT. 3 POSTED!

Started by VSMIT, October 20, 2009, 08:25:05 PM

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Clavin12

#120
November 08, 2009, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: VSMIT on November 08, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
A story does not need an antagonist.  Most have one, but that is only because it makes it easier for readers to distinguish "right" from "wrong."  If you need a definite antagonist, look elsewhere.

Without an antagonist there is nothing to fight. I don't think you get what I'm saying. I didn't say the antagonist was definitely "wrong" and the protagonist was definitely "right". I meant that we need an enemy in the end or you don't have a story.
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Mr X

#121
November 08, 2009, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: Clavin12 on November 08, 2009, 03:24:17 PM
Without an antagonist there is nothing to fight. I don't think you get what I'm saying. I didn't say the antagonist was definitely "wrong" and the protagonist was definitely "right". I meant that we need an enemy in the end or you don't have a story.

And we have an enemy, the side you don't join,

For frak's sake CLAVIN WHY MUST YOU CHALLENGE EVERYTHING!?
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VSMIT

#122
November 08, 2009, 03:34:37 PM
Quote from: Clavin12 on November 08, 2009, 03:24:17 PM
Without an antagonist there is nothing to fight. I don't think you get what I'm saying. I didn't say the antagonist was definitely "wrong" and the protagonist was definitely "right". I meant that we need an enemy in the end or you don't have a story.
Read Huckleberry Finn sometime.  Or Brave New World.  Or Invisible Man.  And tell me who the antagonists are.
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bigbadbogie

#123
November 08, 2009, 03:37:16 PM
Tomorrow when the war began!!
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Clavin12

#124
November 08, 2009, 03:48:59 PM
Quote from: VSMIT on November 08, 2009, 03:34:37 PM
Read Huckleberry Finn sometime.  Or Brave New World.  Or Invisible Man.  And tell me who the antagonists are.

The antagonists are inhuman and abstract but they do exist.
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VSMIT

#125
November 08, 2009, 03:50:04 PM
So tell me what they are.
I find that if I don't have a signature, some people disregard the last couple of lines of a long post.
Quote from: Lizard
IQ's have really dropped around here just recently, must be something in the water.

iron maiden

#126
November 08, 2009, 07:02:03 PM
QuoteRead Huckleberry Finn sometime.  Or Brave New World.  Or Invisible Man.  And tell me who the antagonists are.

only read brave new world and part of invisible man, but i would have to cast my vote for the antagonist being society.
So we only get one chance can we take it
And we only get one life can't exchange it
Can we hold on to what we have don't replace it
The age of innocence is fading..... Like an old dream

sabrebattletank

#127
November 08, 2009, 10:48:37 PM
Or don't read Brave New World. That's what I recommend.

AHadley

#128
November 09, 2009, 12:38:25 AM
Quote from: sabrebattletank on November 08, 2009, 10:48:37 PM
Or don't read Brave New World. That's what I recommend.

It's a very good novel.

sabrebattletank

#129
November 09, 2009, 12:48:47 AM
I didn't like it.

iron maiden

#130
November 09, 2009, 02:59:36 PM
I don't blame him, it is a very difficult book and when looking back quite scary. It takes a person skilled in reading and writing to truly understand it.[Also, listen to iron maiden song of same name, solo's are amazing!]
So we only get one chance can we take it
And we only get one life can't exchange it
Can we hold on to what we have don't replace it
The age of innocence is fading..... Like an old dream

sabrebattletank

#131
November 09, 2009, 04:54:43 PM
I understand it. I don't like it.

Oh well, that's beside the point. Back on topic!

iron maiden

#132
November 09, 2009, 05:06:27 PM
agreed, know, as for the whole antagonist matter it has occurred to me that be doing the plot fork in the beginning of the game may lead to a smaller amount of missions. How many should we have, i'm looking to about 13-14, how about ya'all?
So we only get one chance can we take it
And we only get one life can't exchange it
Can we hold on to what we have don't replace it
The age of innocence is fading..... Like an old dream

VSMIT

#133
November 09, 2009, 06:33:29 PM
Why would it end up being shorter if the fork was at the beginning?
I find that if I don't have a signature, some people disregard the last couple of lines of a long post.
Quote from: Lizard
IQ's have really dropped around here just recently, must be something in the water.

iron maiden

#134
November 09, 2009, 06:42:21 PM
not sure, just seemed to me that there would be less since you immediately had to pick a side, i guess I'm just thinking in the old BZ2 way.
So we only get one chance can we take it
And we only get one life can't exchange it
Can we hold on to what we have don't replace it
The age of innocence is fading..... Like an old dream
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