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Battlezone Universe => Battlezone 2 => Topic started by: bp512 on May 09, 2009, 08:35:28 PM

Title: Darn scratch
Post by: bp512 on May 09, 2009, 08:35:28 PM
Hey guys, I have been trying for several hours now to reload BZII onto my sytem after not playing for several years however I can get it to 94% and then I hit a wall at Scion_dn.bik file.
Anyone able to make a suggestion on how to get around this.
I have tried it on 3 machines and it does the same thing in each case - I think its a scratch
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: AHadley on May 09, 2009, 08:48:30 PM
Clean the disk with a solution of the following chemicals:

59% water
40% isopropyl alcohol
1% detergent

Nice little disk cleaner, works for me. CDs, vinyl records... you name it :lol:
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: bp512 on May 09, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
Intresting result !
Now I can get to 95% and the install engine quits
Anyone seen that before?
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: TheJamsh on May 09, 2009, 11:29:42 PM
Need some more details as to what youre running it on.

Do you have an installation of BZ2 on another machine at all? if you do you can just copy the files to a memory stick and move them to wherever you want.

See if you can copy the files ON THE DISC, onto youre computer directly (into mydocs or wherever), then find the correct setup file and run it from there. That MIGHT work, so long as you can copy them into mydocs
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Power Board on May 10, 2009, 01:27:03 AM
I have the same problem but it only gets up to data.pak. And AHadley cleaning solution does not work  :-(
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Nielk1 on May 10, 2009, 01:50:22 AM
It's a brand name!
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: GSH on May 10, 2009, 01:54:54 AM
I had a DVD at home that never played correctly. One coworker at work had a http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Innovations-10185-Motorized-AutoMax/dp/B00080YK9Y (http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Innovations-10185-Motorized-AutoMax/dp/B00080YK9Y) (or a close cousin), and that worked great.

-- GSH
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: King Gladiator on May 10, 2009, 01:55:35 AM
haha never use store brand cleaners! they ruin your cds more than clean them! i once tried a disc doctor on a halo 1 disk and it fried it! then they wouldnt give me my money back because somehow i was responsible
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Nielk1 on May 10, 2009, 02:04:56 AM
Quote from: GSH on May 10, 2009, 01:54:54 AM
I had a DVD at home that never played correctly. One coworker at work had a http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Innovations-10185-Motorized-AutoMax/dp/B00080YK9Y (http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Innovations-10185-Motorized-AutoMax/dp/B00080YK9Y) (or a close cousin), and that worked great.

-- GSH

A hand held one of those is why my Ace Combat Zero is useless. When in the light your disk has lines perpendicular to the correct direction, it wont work.

I recognize the orange thingy. It sometimes works, but I don't ever suggest using it for console games.
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: AHadley on May 10, 2009, 07:35:16 AM
The installer has closed on me quite a lot, on two disks. One was my original, which snapped in half in the drive one time (no idea what caused it) and the other was a copy I had made to replace it (I assume there was something wrong with the copy)
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: xSSx Grizzly on May 10, 2009, 12:00:12 PM
Can't you download BZ2 from somewhere???
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Axeminister on May 10, 2009, 12:48:00 PM
You can still buy it at these links.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_vg?url=search-alias%3Dvideogames&field-keywords=Battlezone+II%3A+Combat+Commander&x=14&y=16

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00001R3XA/ref=sr_1_olp_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1241959583&sr=1-1
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Nielk1 on May 10, 2009, 05:11:58 PM
Quote from: xSSx Grizzly on May 10, 2009, 12:00:12 PM
Can't you download BZ2 from somewhere???

Yes.

Legally:
No

We can publicly tell you:
No
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: AHadley on May 11, 2009, 06:12:40 AM
I beleive it is legal to download a copy of a game you legally own (though I am by no means certain), but since the link can't be posted on the board without attracting unwanted attention by SMF, it'd have to be PM'ed to you.

I have no such link.
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Steeveeo on May 11, 2009, 06:17:08 AM
I always keep a backup ISO of games on my harddrives, they're quite handy in a bind! :)
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Zero Angel on May 11, 2009, 07:29:34 PM
Couple things:

1) Try to continue in spite of the errors. The bik files arent important, all they are is in-game movies. If the movies folder or bik files are absent then the movie will simply be skipped.

2) If you have 2 CDROM drives, try the other one and see if its better at reading through the scratches. -- Alternatively, if you have another PC, try installing BZ2 on that one -- then just put the BZ2 folder onto a thumbdrive or other media and then copy it to your PC

3) Try using a CD-Burning program to make the BZ2 CD into an ISO file, then burn it to another disk and see if you can install from that disk without errors

4) Repair the scratch using an alcohol swab and toothpaste, or a scratch repair kit. There are tutorials on the internet for this, do a google search on "how to repair scratches".

5) Its not very good for copyright law if you employ pirating techniques to search for an illegal copy of BZ2, such as the "all-in-one torrent" which clearly violates copyright. Don't do that.
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Red Spot on May 11, 2009, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: Zero Angel on May 11, 2009, 07:29:34 PM
3) Try using a CD-Burning program to make the BZ2 CD into an ISO file, then burn it to another disk and see if you can install from that disk without errors

I bought some budget games some time ago and the disks where not found by my system. Burning them to a new disk did the trick, although some needed the original disks to get past the CP ....  :roll:
Anyway the above never has failed so far when only installing, and as 1.3 removes the CP that isnt an issue once you get the game installed.

When you have it installed I suggest before you do anything to the install to create a zip/rar out of it so you basicly never have to bothered to use the original disk when you need to re-install .. just unpack the archive.

Quote from: AHadley on May 11, 2009, 06:12:40 AM
I beleive it is legal to download a copy of a game you legally own (though I am by no means certain), but since the link can't be posted on the board without attracting unwanted attention by SMF, it'd have to be PM'ed to you.

What I've heard about that, but not really sure, is that you are (should be) allowed to create a copy of any legally purchased software. But than again you are technically not allowed to install a program for which you only bought one copy on more than one system, even if both are your own systems.
Perhaps its allowed to download it when you own a copy, but the problem is you are not allowed to host/share it.

That said when I first ran Battlefield 2142 it closed itself down cause I at one point used a deamon-tool ..... and that seems to be legal/acepted as well ...
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Zero Angel on May 12, 2009, 05:26:31 PM
Quote from: Red Spot on May 11, 2009, 09:11:49 PM
What I've heard about that, but not really sure, is that you are (should be) allowed to create a copy of any legally purchased software. But than again you are technically not allowed to install a program for which you only bought one copy on more than one system, even if both are your own systems.
Perhaps its allowed to download it when you own a copy, but the problem is you are not allowed to host/share it.
True. Websites which host ROMs (like for SNES and GBA games) have a disclaimer that states that you can only download the ROM if you own the game itself. This grants the website owner some immunity to being prosecuted because the legality of the action is passed over to the end user.

Of course Cmptrwz (the owner of this website) will not touch any 'possibly illegal' software with a 10 foot pole thanks to a certain unknown person who ensures he gets antagonized by his host over it.
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Clavin12 on May 12, 2009, 05:53:57 PM
Quote from: AHadley on May 09, 2009, 08:48:30 PM
Clean the disk with a solution of the following chemicals:

59% water
40% isopropyl alcohol
1% detergent

Nice little disk cleaner, works for me. CDs, vinyl records... you name it :lol:

Toothpaste works too, especially with scratches
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: AHadley on May 12, 2009, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: Zero Angel on May 11, 2009, 07:29:34 PM
4) Repair the scratch using an alcohol swab and toothpaste, or a scratch repair kit. There are tutorials on the internet for this, do a google search on "how to repair scratches".
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: King Gladiator on May 12, 2009, 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: AHadley on May 12, 2009, 05:58:23 PM

id be extremely careful with this though. some might work but i would try it on a spare cd. maybe get a cd you burned music to and scratch it up a little until you can tell that it is scratched then try various methods and see what one works the best. i wouldnt try it for the first time on your game cd or it could ruin it forever.
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: AHadley on May 12, 2009, 08:10:56 PM
It was a quote from ZA, not me.
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Arbystrider on May 13, 2009, 08:05:42 AM
Nice quote by the way. It's a one in a million.

Once I tried toothpaste on my GTASA Xbox game. Completely ruined it.
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Blue_Leader on May 13, 2009, 01:55:07 PM
Quote from: Arbystrider on May 13, 2009, 08:05:42 AM
Nice quote by the way. It's a one in a million.

Once I tried toothpaste on my GTASA Xbox game. Completely ruined it.

Toothpaste actually works well for games with scratches long as it isn't that severe. I was looking on the internet on how to repair scratches and strangely that showed up. One of the odder home remedies for fixing games, or at least attempting.
Title: Re: Darn scratch
Post by: Zero Angel on May 15, 2009, 06:58:28 AM
Yes, scratch repair on a CD is hit and miss. If the CD is non-functional to you then its the only thing you can really do as it does have a small chance of fixing the problem as well as a chance of causing more area to be unreadable -- still it's is better than no chance. Thats why I put it as the fourth solution (try this if nothing works in other words).