Battlezone Universe

Battlezone Universe => Overdrive Terminal => Topic started by: iron maiden on August 31, 2009, 03:56:19 AM

Title: Human Society and what not...
Post by: iron maiden on August 31, 2009, 03:56:19 AM
I believe that the main problem in human society is in fact how far we have come. Our medical advances are capable of extending human life to twice and in rare instances three times as long as our shorter living ancestors about 10'000 years ago. This in turn causes less people to die off every year than normal, which results in dangerous expansion of a species that is currently incapable of deporting its population to others habitable celestial bodies. The second main problem is our advances in weaponry. Although we would like to see otherwise, we are still the descendants of the barbarians we call cavemen. The unwashed barbarians who were constantly fighting. All sentient life has the urge to fight over something, which is why so many different groups of people do not get along ie: Christians and Darwinians, Conservatives and liberals, England against France. With such incredible weaponry, our primevil urge for battle and feelings of hatred towards one another can have deadly affects on more people now then during roman or medieval times. Humanity must find away to put aside its differences and form some sort of human collective. We can no longer simply call ourselves American's and Russians, French and English, German's and Poles, Chinese or Japanese, we must unite under a single, temporary flag of union to save not just the planet but our own race. or die wishing we had.
Title: Human Society and what not...
Post by: bigbadbogie on August 31, 2009, 06:17:46 AM
Quote from: iron maiden on August 31, 2009, 03:56:19 AM
Humanity must find away to put aside its differences and form some sort of human collective. We can no longer simply call ourselves American's and Russians, French and English, German's and Poles, Chinese or Japanese, we must unite under a single, temporary flag of union to save not just the planet but our own race. or die wishing we had.

Ever heard of the UN?
Title: Human Society and what not...
Post by: AHadley on August 31, 2009, 09:04:17 AM
Doesn't work very well though, does it? And it needs to be eveybody.
Title: Human Society and what not...
Post by: bigbadbogie on August 31, 2009, 10:09:05 AM
Well it's the best we could ever do.
Title: Human Society and what not...
Post by: iron maiden on August 31, 2009, 05:13:42 PM
trust me, we could do a heck of a lot better.the UN has lost much of its authority in world affairs [i quote the Israeli-Hamas conflict of earlier this year.]they still try's to give the illusion it does by playing the "peace and unity make the world better" card.
Title: Human Society and what not...
Post by: sabrebattletank on September 01, 2009, 02:34:22 PM
Organization of American States!

-_-
Title: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Clavin12 on September 01, 2009, 03:32:34 PM
I think the united states should un-unite a little bit into states under their on government but still held together by the federal government. Its what the constitutions about.
Title: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Tempest Storm on September 02, 2009, 08:22:23 AM
That sounds a lot like the Articles of Confederation...that didn't work very well. :P
Title: Human Society and what not...
Post by: bigbadbogie on September 02, 2009, 11:54:34 AM
The United States has way too many states.

You have like 50 states in the same area that Australia has just 7. (Don't start on 'Territories' anyone.)

Sorry... just felt like hijacking the topic and posting something completely random.

Oh wait... you already hijacked the topic...  :-P
Title: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Clavin12 on September 02, 2009, 01:17:58 PM
Quote from: Tempest Storm on September 02, 2009, 08:22:23 AM
That sounds a lot like the Articles of Confederation...that didn't work very well. :P

What I'm trying to say is that the constitution put a lot more power in the state government than they have now, and our government is too big to work well.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: AHadley on September 03, 2009, 09:57:50 AM
America's 46 states and 4 commonwealths are all larger than certain countries (Monaco anyone?) but splitting them up into seperate countries would cause chaos. Not only would each of the states go ahead and do their own thing, but the entire US government would need to be dissolved first, resulting in a period of chaos. The transfer wouldn't go smoothly. It's easy enough to do one way, but the other? Not going to happen. The last thing the world needs is for the US to separate.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Clavin12 on September 03, 2009, 12:32:59 PM
I didn't say that they should dissolve into individual countries. All that I'm saying is that they should have a little more freedom than they do now.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: sabrebattletank on September 03, 2009, 03:42:47 PM
As long as we're playing the "who should govern America's territories?" game, I wish to point out: WASHINGTON, DC.

States, stop complaining. At least you have a Senator. Or two. Actually two.

Lucky.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Clavin12 on September 03, 2009, 04:03:09 PM
I agree with you about DC but just because one problem is bigger than another doesn't mean the smaller doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: sabrebattletank on September 03, 2009, 04:05:17 PM
The extent of Federalism is a common theme in American history. Our Civil War was fought over it.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Clavin12 on September 03, 2009, 04:27:02 PM
I'm sorry, but it was the war of southern secession. The south did legally secede only the north declared war and recaptured it. I would have the south try it again just to be free from the federal government. I would rather live in a confederation because it spreads power more evenly.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Nielk1 on September 03, 2009, 05:06:24 PM
Sorry but the victors choose what it is called and how history records it. No one will ever truly know the full truth of any event.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Clavin12 on September 03, 2009, 05:10:13 PM
Still i'd be willing to try it again.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: mrtwosheds on September 03, 2009, 05:32:05 PM
Wouldn't work. The financial losses it would inflict on powerful vested interests, would ensure that it would not be allowed to succeed. The days when such a liberty could be taken are gone. Freedom won was sold to the ethos of Capitalism. Nobody can afford to buy it back now, and fighting for it would bring predictable results. You will have to wait until this "Empire" falls, as they all do in the end.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Clavin12 on September 03, 2009, 05:44:03 PM
What a glorious and terrible day it will be.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: iron maiden on September 03, 2009, 07:46:03 PM
indeed it shall
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Red Devil on September 04, 2009, 04:38:30 PM
I recently watched the HBO mini-series John Adams on DVD.  Very much worth watching.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: sabrebattletank on September 09, 2009, 03:21:37 AM
Who is God?
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: VSMIT on September 09, 2009, 03:58:37 AM
Didn't we already have a thread all about who God is? (http://www.bzuniverse.com/forum/index.php/topic,8918.0.html)
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: sabrebattletank on September 09, 2009, 04:02:40 AM
QuoteTopico locko!

we used to.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Scav-Avenger on September 09, 2009, 04:04:24 AM
Quote from: AHadley on September 03, 2009, 09:57:50 AM
America's 46 states and 4 commonwealths are all larger than certain countries (Monaco anyone?)


Monaco? You should have said Singapore (place I live). Its the tiniest itty bitty little country in the world!
=P I mean, on the world map we look like a dot. XD
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: sabrebattletank on September 09, 2009, 04:08:53 AM
Vatican City.

And don't you ever forget that non-voting, non-commonwealth, non-state, but federal district, Washington, D.C.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: AHadley on September 09, 2009, 06:56:24 AM
The Vatican is the smallest country in the world, Monaco is second. How can an American State not be bigger than the Vatican? Singapore doesn't even make it into the top 17 http://geography.about.com/cs/countries/a/smallcountries.htm (http://geography.about.com/cs/countries/a/smallcountries.htm)
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Clavin12 on September 09, 2009, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: sabrebattletank on September 09, 2009, 04:08:53 AM
Vatican City.

And don't you ever forget that non-voting, non-commonwealth, non-state, but federal district, Washington, D.C.

You should move to NC. We have barbecue and like the worst obesity rate in the U.S.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: sabrebattletank on September 09, 2009, 02:56:33 PM
I'm actually at school in New York. We have everything.
Title: Re: Human Society and what not...
Post by: Scav-Avenger on September 10, 2009, 01:28:23 PM
Quote from: AHadley on September 09, 2009, 06:56:24 AM
The Vatican is the smallest country in the world, Monaco is second. How can an American State not be bigger than the Vatican? Singapore doesn't even make it into the top 17 http://geography.about.com/cs/countries/a/smallcountries.htm (http://geography.about.com/cs/countries/a/smallcountries.htm)


Woah really? I always thought we (Singapore) was tiniest...