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Battlezone 2 Community Project for 1.3?

Started by AHadley, June 17, 2009, 06:14:42 PM

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General_Hoohah

#45
June 21, 2009, 08:07:33 AM Last Edit: June 21, 2009, 08:09:36 AM by General_Hoohah
What? ... then who is the EDF?  :? Can someone explain this to me please?

Also, I need a name for the race of insane war criminals. I can't think of anything really... except the Roncar, but I think I got that from Bleach. >.> It sounds menacing, I think thats why I like it. Anyone else have any suggestions?

Roncar... I think I like it... but I'm open to suggestions.
And remember, any problem caused by a tank can be solved by a tank.

Shadow Knight

#46
June 21, 2009, 08:50:26 AM
Why make an entire race of people/creatures that are only war criminals? It would make much more sense for them to just be a big, wealthy faction.

TheJamsh

#47
June 21, 2009, 10:50:33 AM Last Edit: June 21, 2009, 10:54:09 AM by TheJamsh
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Quote from: General_Hoohah on June 21, 2009, 08:07:33 AM
Also, I need a name for the race of insane war criminals. I can't think of anything really... except the Roncar, but I think I got that from Bleach. >.> It sounds menacing, I think thats why I like it. Anyone else have any suggestions?

Two major pirate organisations in Serenesis are called the 'Feint' (being Thomas Feints organisation) and 'Meth'. the name Meth is subject to change seeing as i didnt think about the drug...

The Feint are mostly made up of ex-criminals who managed to get themselves a place aboard an AAN Colony Class Seeding Ship when the colonisation acts began. This involved killing civilians at first, but as time went on it began easier to get aboard. Once the drug 'Thermoakryliate' was brought into the system via trade with the Hadeans by accident, people could use it to counteract the deep-sleep drugs used on board the AAN Ships. All the pirates had to do was take the drug and they re-awaken during the flight, giving them the ability to Mutiny and take over the ships.

Once time goes on, Feint's organisation gets so large they start using their stolen AAN property (The Hundreds of Trillions of Gelden worth) to mount raids on other AAN seeding ships. Civilians and soldiers alike on board are forced to either work for Feint or suffer death.

Once The Black Cerberi Raids start taking place on the most distant colonies that the AAN has the least ability to police and protect, Feint starts using his stolen equipment to fuel a new type of 'Black Market'. Illegally giving the colonies the ability to defend themselves by providing supplies and armnents. Of course, Feint rarely does a good job, but you wouldn't argue with him about it.

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I've already got the idea of how i want them too look. If you're interested :D?


BZII Expansion Pack Development Leader. Coming Soon.

General_Hoohah

#48
June 21, 2009, 01:16:41 PM
Can someone please explain to me how the EDF came to pass and what happened to the ISDF?


Why not just stick with a faction? Because I want to create an enemy that I want to fight. An enemy that's evil, routhless, insane, and has no reguard for life. An enemy that makes the ISDF stronger and makes you want to kill it and get revenge. An enemy that deserves death... instead of a bunch of innocent soldiers standing up for what they believe in.

In my story I want the ISDF and EDF on the borderline of war, so there ARE factions in my story, but thats only a small part of the story to give it more depth.


To be honest, I want to create a race of beings no one's ever heard of before who are completely insane and unpredictable. What you describe requires the mind of a sane congitive enemy who can plan and rationalize. Thats completely opposite to the road I was going down.

The enemy I was describing earlier in the story thread I started is insane, suicidal, irrational, and completely unpredictable. They don't use stratagies, they just kill kill kill. Thats all they do.

I wanted them to be twice the size of humans with a large boney jaw, pointy teeth, hunched over with claws, black cold eyes, and carrying large weapons when they eject.
And remember, any problem caused by a tank can be solved by a tank.

General BlackDragon

#49
June 21, 2009, 04:21:41 PM
Quote from: General_Hoohah on June 21, 2009, 01:16:41 PM
Can someone please explain to me how the EDF came to pass and what happened to the ISDF?

ISDF and Scions combined to form Earth Defence Force


*****General BlackDragon*****

AHadley

#50
June 21, 2009, 05:36:00 PM
No they didn't... Braddock's nuclear facility obliterated core, flung it out of orbit, destroyed all its systems (ejected the Cerberus Computer into space, spewing Cerberi all the way - disputed) and generally caused hell for the Scions, and killed Manson while it was at it, the Scions damn near declared war on the ISDF who, in shame and seeking to shed all connection with Armond Braddock, changed their name to the EDF. Same force, same units, new name.

That's what I'm getting from the FE breifings and things anyway.

Scions are hostile to the EDF throughout the FE storyline, only giving help to the members of Operation Guard Dog in fear of their own destruction.

Clavin12

#51
June 21, 2009, 06:34:10 PM
According to what i read the cerberi and the other supercomputer where ejected.
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General_Hoohah

#52
June 21, 2009, 06:58:57 PM
I always thought the EDF involved more nations than the ISDF.
And remember, any problem caused by a tank can be solved by a tank.

Warfreak

#53
June 21, 2009, 07:42:15 PM
The Rise of the EDF merged the AAN and the UN and made the former ISDF the generalized army of Earth itself rather than a joint NSDF/CCA army off in space hunting for more biometal.

Clavin12

#54
June 21, 2009, 08:35:05 PM
If you read the wiki it says the edf was used for dirty little jobs no one wanted to do.
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VSMIT

#55
June 21, 2009, 08:57:42 PM
And exactly which wiki says that?
I find that if I don't have a signature, some people disregard the last couple of lines of a long post.
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IQ's have really dropped around here just recently, must be something in the water.

Clavin12

#56
June 21, 2009, 09:42:19 PM
BZ2wiki theres a link to it...somewhere. battlezone complex place
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Nielk1

#57
June 21, 2009, 09:45:18 PM Last Edit: June 21, 2009, 11:24:29 PM by Nielk1
Does anyone really read the materials we have or do they just skim them and spout random crap?
The following is the pseudo canon. Mods do not need to follow it, but it is what occurred in mods the community as a whole considers the continuation of the story.


  • The new Black Dogs do the jobs no one wants to do.
  • The Cerberus AI was NOT ejected from Core, the Scion Super Computer which was brought over from the older, dying Core planet was.
  • The Cerberi viewed humanity as the enemy because Braddock nuked the hell out of their home.
  • The Cerberi were on the Dark Planet before it was turned into Dark/New Core.
  • The EDF does not even use Biometal ships. The Ships you used in FE are actually old ISDF ships stored away since before the AAN dismantled the ISDF after the Core Disaster.
  • The EDF is what happens when bureaucrats weight public opinion over defense. A "paper tiger".
  • The ISDF and Scion endings do not BOTH OCCUR, it is one or the other.
  • There are TWO known core planets at the end of the Scion story in stock BZ2, none at the end of the ISDF.

Click on the image...

Warfreak

#58
June 21, 2009, 10:34:51 PM
OH, so sorry we pissed off the Wiki guy.  :roll:

AHadley

#59
June 22, 2009, 06:45:49 AM
The Two Cores theory has always confused me... I shall read up :)
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