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Started by iron maiden, November 13, 2009, 11:34:34 PM

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Mr X

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If you're using biology I'm using physics, try to keep up because this may be hard to follow,

Physics would have us believe that the universe is incredibly vast, and that there are unlimited parallel universes, and that time is infinite,

given all that space and time there are enough of those umpteen trillion to one chances occuring that they will probably occur somewhere,

now consider this, the implication here is that somewhere, intelligent life will develop, there are many potential forms for this intelligent life but it will take one of them. Wherever, whenever and however this intelligent life comes into being is inconsequential for this argument, it probably will. Also, it is because this intelligent life exists that it can question its existence, it percieves a very unlikely coincidence, but in fact it it is just the lucky one that happened.

In short, odds are life will occur somewhere, and it will at some point question the reason it exists.

edit: changing your post so I can't argue back? I don't think so

Quote from: Clavin12 on November 17, 2009, 09:51:47 PM
Fine...I'll make you a bet. 50 bucks God exists. Get back to me at the end of the world.

Ok, kindly tell me when you think the world will end so that I can claim my winnings when you get it wrong.

And how do you know you have the right religion anyway? Surely if there was a God he wouldn't leave whether or not his ultimate creations are damned for all eternity up to chance.
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iron maiden

Apparently in about three years, those Mayans were wicked smart! :roll:
So we only get one chance can we take it
And we only get one life can't exchange it
Can we hold on to what we have don't replace it
The age of innocence is fading..... Like an old dream

Clavin12

How do you know physics are right?
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iron maiden

That's the thing, nobody can prove either religion or physics right or wrong, that is why people fight constantly over it.
So we only get one chance can we take it
And we only get one life can't exchange it
Can we hold on to what we have don't replace it
The age of innocence is fading..... Like an old dream

Mr X

Theres more proof for physics compared to religion. (and by more I actually mean there is some proof)

Physics is a science, they have their opinions because the facts at hand all point in that direction. They are therefore far more likely to be right.

Religion is just something people in history made up because they couldn't explain anything. It has basis in fact only on the absolute minimum level.
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iron maiden

If physics are correct then, how is it life can vary in so many way's? Would you like to face life knowing you do not go anywhere when you die? [Though granted it is better to go some places then others]
So we only get one chance can we take it
And we only get one life can't exchange it
Can we hold on to what we have don't replace it
The age of innocence is fading..... Like an old dream

Clavin12

Hey Mr. X. Do you believe in wind?
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Mr X

Yes, whats your point?

Wind is caused by the Earth moving, historically religious people killed the scientists who suggested that the Earth wasn't stationary.
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iron maiden

You know, if you stopped the rotation of the Earth, everything would be hit by a thousand mile an hour wind which, coupled with high heat, would kill much of the life on Earth.
So we only get one chance can we take it
And we only get one life can't exchange it
Can we hold on to what we have don't replace it
The age of innocence is fading..... Like an old dream

hybirdisdf

Quote from: Mr X on November 17, 2009, 10:30:19 PM

Wind is caused by the Earth moving, historically religious people killed the scientists who suggested that the Earth wasn't stationary.

Wind doesnt make sense.That way the gravity moves.

iron maiden

........................what?  Type clearly please.
So we only get one chance can we take it
And we only get one life can't exchange it
Can we hold on to what we have don't replace it
The age of innocence is fading..... Like an old dream

Nielk1

Quote from: Mr X on November 17, 2009, 10:30:19 PM
Yes, whats your point?

Wind is caused by the Earth moving, historically religious people killed the scientists who suggested that the Earth wasn't stationary.

That statement goes against thousands of physics laws...

It is related to movement causing different distributions of sunlight and such, but it is not in any way caused by movement itself.

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Nielk1

Quote from: iron maiden on November 17, 2009, 10:39:18 PM
You know, if you stopped the rotation of the Earth, everything would be hit by a thousand mile an hour wind which, coupled with high heat, would kill much of the life on Earth.

That is the very same reason rotation does not cause wind. The air is all moving at the same rate as the Earth itself.

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Nielk1

Quote from: Clavin12 on November 17, 2009, 08:46:48 PM
The perfect government is that of a benevolent dictator.

The perfect government is socialist, but it can only be upheld once our technology reaches the point where money for necessities is no longer required. A Socialist system with a capitalist higher system is the best of all probabilities. It makes people get rewards for what they do above and beyond, but it still lets people share and work together for the necessities and lower levels. Look at Star Trek.

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Clavin12

Ever read 1984? Epitome of socialism.
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