Opinions on the Sentry

[IceWendigo]

Does anyone like to select/ask for a Sentry in most games as Scions?
If not, why do you prefer the other units (scout,warrior)? Which aspect of the Sentry could be emphazied to make it the ship of choice for a specific situation X? (ex: increase its ammo capacity by a large margin, making it the best mine layer)
Otherwise has anyone used it in 1.3 out of curiosity. What's your opinion (good, so-so, possible tweeks?)

[Speedy]

In FE revc, they made it stronger and it effectively made it a great unit to use. Guass + Prox + Stasis on a sentry in pre-blink times is a great ship to have. We should follow the same lead and make the sentry more powerful.

[Lizard]

I never really could quite see the point of sentries , they look cool but that's about as far as it goes . Then again I've never really been much of a scion player so maybe there's something I'm missing .

[Speedy]

You can compare lancers to avengers/rocket tanks. Sentries are the scion unit of choice between scouts (relatively weak) and late game blink-warriors.

[PhoeniX-FlamE]

i dont see why someone will prefer sentry over either a scout or warior...

if u want speed ull go for scout
if u want to kill ISDF scouts ull go arc warior / arc scout
or even a sonic scout

if u want to kill pools - get warior anyways
i cant find not even 1 good reason to use a sentry...
ion is weak against buildings (pools)
and ull just be slower
scotus move faster and the plasma stream works better but it just drains ammo 2 fast but i think if u check by the time a sentry will kill a pool in middle lets say quarry and the time a scout with plasma (before wepons) will finish all his ammo will get btb and back to pool will be shorter then the sentry

[Der Vampyr Engel]

I think if you could stick a cannon in the centre of the Sentry it would be a brilliantly fast light tank, I use to have great fun in 1.2 in the Crystals mission charging ISDF  Rocket tanks leading loads of other Scion tanks like the scout, Lancer, Warroir, and other Sentry tanks, use to get blown right out of the tank if I didn't straffe around it but it had me in fits of laughter,

Also I use to be able to take down a Sabre pretty well enough in it but I do think it is the weakest of the ships, even the Scion Scout drone has better weaponry, but if it was like the Stoli or the Bobcat with a Cannon and machine guns or in the Sentry's case, machine ion guns I don't think people would find it so weak then, especially with a hornet rocket weapon on it

[PhoeniX-FlamE]

if u put a cannon on it it'll be  exaclty like the warior only looking difrent and faster

whats the point? :s

[Speedy]

In FE they are brilliantly balanced so that they're actually useful along with scouts (killing hardned units). Guass really puts a number on ISDF scouts and in case you didn't know, assualt guass outranges turrets. It makes the sentry a very powerful unit for a thug to have, in companion with a scion scout.

The more choices, the better. A scion commander shouldn't just be limited to scouts and warriors to win (the same epidemic plaguing 1.2 ISDF).

Sentries are not good in maps such as quarry, they're good in big maps with open spaces.

[PhoeniX-FlamE]

yo speedy maybe u can enlighten me wont an arc hit do more then gauss hit?...
u saing gauss outrange rats...
just dont forget arc outrange rats and does mroe dmg :s

[Der Vampyr Engel]

What's the point, more options for a start and a lot more firepower for the Sentry, it wouldn't be so weak with it's weapons, otherwise you might as well have  that as the Scout ship and the Scout as the Sentry.

Besides there was no real point in BZ1 having a rocket tank and a Bomber tank but both were a lot of fun if armed right.

[PhoeniX-FlamE]

they were accutly much difrent from warior to sentry or scout to sentry...

[NeoCooke]

The Scion Scout=Light Tank.
Sentry=Scout.

Obviously. The Scion Drone Scout is cannon armed. It is essentialy a light tank. But a very cheap light tank, buildable from the Matriarch! The Sentry, though...it's a very powerful scout.

[PhoeniX-FlamE]

if its so powerful why no1 uses it?
i dont think u can compare scions or isdf to bz1...

sentry is the scout version of ISDF only more ammo and slower
BUT since scions dont have good guns against buildings and the normal scout is faster it became unused... because u just cant find something useful to do with it...

killing scouts and other units - arc / sonic scout / warior
killing pools - same as above

attacking bases - same as above

can u give me 1 good use of the sentry that warior and scout cant do?
i dont think im the only one thinking like that.. ive NEVER saw a sentry in use and i think theres a good reason for that... i do belive some players tried sentry from every angle and no1 uses sentries

[Der Vampyr Engel]

Yeah but they both could carry the dumbfire Hornet Rocket and one had a cannon the other didn't also both sides had the equivalent so both sides where evenly matched, with the Sentry the only thing it can come anyway near matching is the ISDF Scout and even the ISDF Scout has slight better weaoponry with the FAF missile on board.

The Sentry is built in the factory because t is meant to be slightly better than the Scout , but , really, it isn't, the Scout is better armed and if you have the Rain Forest Mod , the Scout  with the Scoin Plasma cannon is on a par with the Warroir while the Sentry is simply outclassed by the Scout in that mod, I say give it a cannon at least , then it would be something, add 2 rocket hardpoints then it will be something even better I certainly will with my mod.

[Dirty Rooster]

By the time scions get gauss they can also get warriors ...
with gauss.
A plasma/gauss warriors is better than sentry but more expensive.

In 1.2 and 1.3 sentries are practically useless compared to other
units of choice. I myself think this is simply because IonII is
so bad against heavies and buildings.
Upping damage of IonII v pools and scavs would make sentries worth
suing by humans and AI before gauss/maulers are available.

IonII is currently great vs light/no armour, doesn't need improving there.