Some issues for debate (UPDATED)

[Feared_1]

2. Lucifer - "the serpent of old' - convinced Eve to partake of the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil', i.e., had sex with Lucifer.  (no mention of apples in the Bible...)

This is very interesting. Genesis does state that God told Adam and Eve to "be fruitful and multiply".

That is VERY interesting.

[bigbadbogie]

And your not sacred? Not being sarcastic or anything.

Not at all. I actually prefer the belief that there is no afterlife for anyone. It makes life seem so much more important.

[cheesepuffly]

The importance of this life is to help get people to the next.

[mrtwosheds]

Hopeless...

[Feared_1]

Hopeless...

Get used to it.

[Red Devil]

The main purpose in life is to learn what love is.  Everything good flows from that.

[cheesepuffly]

If its love from God then yes. Human love aint that bad either.

[bigbadbogie]

*rolls eyes making frustrated noises before smashing head on keyboard*

[Axeminister]

The main purpose in life is to play Battlezone II, isn't it?

[Warfreak]

NOOO, oh, i mean YES. 

That and to make sure the scrap flows. 

[cheesepuffly]

*rolls eyes making frustrated noises before smashing head on keyboard*

Its my duty to do that. Sorry if it offends you.

@Axe, indeed. After God, then is Cheese, then Battlezone 2, and then Pets and then Family.

[cheesepuffly]

Sorry for double posting, but im just lettin ya know i updated the issues

(this is what i put in in the topic just copied and pasted )


I have decided to expand the issues, feel free to send me a PM for a request.

4. Gay Marriage: Whats your opinion on this subject? My opinion, they love each other like if not more than most Straight Couples, and atleast in the U.S. one of the main things is the Pursuit of Happiness and it does not really hurt anyone so i believe it should be allowed

5. Putting Humans Down: Cant think of any other way to say it (unrelated to animals). Injecting them with drugs to bring about their death, on the basis that they are in unbearable uncureable pain.
My opinion is also on this, yes. True, its kind of like suicide but let us say in the foreseeable future, there is no way to help that person. And every moment of their life would be in pain. And there is nothing they could do about it. IF that is true then i think you should be able to do that. BUT you must kind of work for it. As in like, get your family approval and

[Feared_1]

4. Gay Marriage: Whats your opinion on this subject? My opinion, they love each other like if not more than most Straight Couples, and atleast in the U.S. one of the main things is the Pursuit of Happiness and it does not really hurt anyone so i believe it should be allowed

ABSOLUTELY not. It's UNNATURAL. If two people of the same sex marry, they should NOT be treated like a normal married couple. This is mostly because it is NOT normal. You're NOT born gay. You just have formed a bad habit if you like someone of the same sex...

5. Putting Humans Down: Cant think of any other way to say it (unrelated to animals). Injecting them with drugs to bring about their death, on the basis that they are in unbearable uncureable pain.
My opinion is also on this, yes. True, its kind of like suicide but let us say in the foreseeable future, there is no way to help that person. And every moment of their life would be in pain. And there is nothing they could do about it. IF that is true then i think you should be able to do that. BUT you must kind of work for it. As in like, get your family approval and

No, no, no. Two wrongs don't make a right. Killing people is wrong. Killing a killer is... also wrong.

EDIT: misread the issue.

[Nielk1]

I am of the opinion that Gay Marriage should be legal, BUT NOT AS MARRIAGE! I like the idea of civil unions giving 100% the same LEGAL features of Marriage. Semantics I know, but it is the most fitting to the definition of the word marriage AND the freedoms/rights our societal construct allows. Notice I said societal construct. All societies are a complex web of relinquished freedoms/rights in the interest of an ordered society where the remaining rights/freedoms are not disturbed by those of others. I do not speak for the laws of god, or nature, I only speak as a citizen of my own society.

As for euthanasia, I, just don't know! Now-a-days pain can be rather well managed, and after Terry Schiavo (I am under the distinct feeling that if the brain can't heal itself, which IT CAN, it will just rewire itself to function in a new way with what it still has) I lean against it.

Life in prison is too weak for some, but killing them might be to hard. Personally I put those who commit crimes against children above killers on the 'need to die' list. The prison system is designed for rehabilitation, but, it can't be done for the worst and if it could I STILL DO NOT WANT THEM OUT! With the shortage of organs I would say find a way to kill them and still get the organs, but who wants the organs of a child abuser or murderer in them? We could turn them into a new form of indentured servitude, make some use out of them. I mean, slavery (aside from the American slavery of the past), was something either for prisoners or something you could get elevated out of (or both). Bring that back for those in prison, make USE OF THEM! At least have them pay for their own upkeep (or euthanasia if that still occurs).

[Axeminister]

I did an essay in community college on euthanasia many years ago and there are many cases where this kind of thing is allowed, but only with family and patient consent. If they are not living on their own, but by a machine and with no brain activity then you can't have patient consent, so in cases in the past the doctor speaks for the patient along with the family to have this considered. The case where a person is just tired of all the pain, or life in general, but they still have full use of all their mental and physical abilities isn't considered. There are many extrememes, like when at war, or during power outages. Should a doctor leave the generator running in a storm to continue giving life to a brain dead patient when there isn't enough power from the generator to save patients who aren't brain dead coming in from the storm? Shouldn't it be his decision to use the power on new patients that can be saved? There are so many different scenarios that you can only do your best to make these decisions as best as you can. I'm glad I'm not a doctor.