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[Commando]

I personally like the public beta's physics better than the physics in the most recent betas.  The 1.2 physics were restored which caused a lot of new problems, such as strafe thrusters failing when the player attempted to fly.  This was not part of the no flying fix so it was a new bug caused by restoring the 1.2 physics.  GSH has attempted to restore the physics, but due to the code changes in 1.3, it won't work to simply copy and past the 1.2's physics into 1.3.  If this would work, that would be great.

[deadscion]

DarkFox makes a good point, maybe the best alternative is to just allow the recycler variants to work for modified ships that fly. If a client has some way of being able to tell which variant is being used then he/she has an advanced choice before entering a game.

Then 1.3 can keep the current physics(1.3PB) it has and everyone is happy.

[Tempest Storm]

You can see what variant is being used, you just need to get into the game lobby first.

[Jwk the Hemp Monkey]

Then 1.3 can keep the current physics(1.3PB) it has and everyone is happy.

Not everyone is happy with it. But is it 'acceptable'....

Height induced damage is not, and will kill any chance of 1.3 being accepted by the community.

The LAST *Ammo*ing thing we need is a divided community.

[deadscion]

Then 1.3 can keep the current physics(1.3PB) it has and everyone is happy.

Not everyone is happy with it. But is it 'acceptable'....

Height induced damage is not, and will kill any chance of 1.3 being accepted by the community.

The LAST *Ammo*ing thing we need is a divided community.

Hieght Damage and that stupid "Hill" damage bull.

[PhoeniX-FlamE]

jwk... the community is not divided... we lost hmm 10 players to 1.3
thats about it

[Fishbone]

well, and there will be next to no more new mods for 1.2
but I guess thats no loss for you, Phoenix, right?
and since you dont play any mods, nobody else is, right?

[PhoeniX-FlamE]

tell me fishbone, what mod exactly is being played atm?

exept FE...


i trust the FE makers to know whats good for them and to what mod they'll devolp their next patch..
and even if they make a patch for 1.3 only i dont find much loss because still - FE isnt very active... 2 / 3 games a night... the only one i see hosting FE is aougli and sometimes some1 that no1 joins him anyways...

my point is that the only active FE server is by aougli...
and if no1 will play FE in 1.3 they will make their FE patch for 1.2...

i guess we'll have to wait and see...

[Jwk the Hemp Monkey]

'' only lost 10 players ''

Last time i checked 9/10 of those players were long-time vets. Also, if 1.3 comes out with stupid 'hill bump' stuff and height damage then there will be alot of people who will not install it.

Boom, you get a split community...one with 1.2 and one with 1.3.

To add to the split is that it is very unlikly a FE rev.d (1.3 compatabilty patch) will be made to the same standard as the other patchs (due to a lack of vets basically) if 1.3 has all the HB and HD stuff.

IMO the only way 1.3 stop itself from destroying the community's co-hesion is if it has the 'experimental rec scout' as the DEFAULT scout attributes and 1.3PB physics.

[PhoeniX-FlamE]

hmm 9 long time vets?
give me a list...


oh and g66? g66 is still a mpi which is getting boring after awhile... and its not something that will keep players like vets for more then 4 years!!!!
but ya, g66 was real fun at sometimes... and its nice when ur alone BUT with 1.3 physics and more stuff thast supposed to come (air dmg)  i prefer 1.2 even without g66 v2

because 1.2 does need some fixes... and we do want a better 1.2... just trying to achive some stuff that 1.3 will be nice for us... but it aint... most gave up - me 2.... well - kind off.. im still on forums.. not posting requests or anything anymore and *trying* not to get in argues about physics hover and more bla bla

back to jwk post... alot of vets (and other people) didnt install 1.3 yet
air dmg will make it worse... but i dont call it spliting the community - because its not that bad... i dont think theres any1 in 1.3 i miss... exept lms, speedy, df, you and bascily thats about it... because i dont know anymore vets in 1.3....

although i do see DF, you and lms playing 1.2 now anyways....

[Fried]

I think you will find most strat players from the 1.3 beta group are playing more 1.2 and fe than 1.3 currently and perhaps even more so in the future.

RIP as a clan has hmm 6 members in the closed beta yet we rarely play 1.3 were mostly on aougs server having fun with fe, Aegeis plays the occasional fe game and hosts some , though i must admit all the agro that came with 1.3 has put some long time players off, i even remember Buzz (grandpa) stopped playing sometime through the 1.3 dev and he voiced some serious concerns about the direction that 1.3 was going.

BTW the biggest buttwhipes ive ever had are from TV,Buzz,VNB Aegeis and VNB PZ

I cant think of any long term strat players who will soley play 1.3, strats are more about finding a game and having fun rather than proving a point with what version to play, if a version isnt fun then i doubt it will get played much.

[appel]

Funny that people are discussing this still I'm so over 1.3, and most are. I think those still discussing 1.3 are deluded by the thought their comments will get through to those making this patch.

You're trying to reasoning with the wind here.

[Jwk the Hemp Monkey]

What i want to see is a future where the WHOLE community accepts 1.3

They do not have to be 100% happy with it, but it has to be acceptable.

Height damage, hill bump damage, not having the experimental rec's scouts as default....those things wont let 1.3 be accepted.

[Fried]

The same concerns have been voiced in the closed beta hemp, no point in trying any more m8. What will be will be.

[Aegeis]

You're trying to reasoning with the wind here.

I'm gonna have to co-sign on what appel said.