My darn tilde key (~) isn't working.

[Fractangle]

Well, I'll be more precise. It's obviously working, as I can type it. I did so in the subject line of this thread. However, it DOES NOT work in BZII (I've tried in stock 1.2 and in FE). This means that I cannot:

• Open the console.
• Recycle any units.
• Select specific units from a squad.

I have not experienced this on my old Win98 computer that is long since unplugged, nor on a relative's WinXP machine (nor on this same machine back when it had WinME on it). The key works normally in every other program. Please help!

[GSH]

What OS are you running? 1.3ta5's readme13.rtf (installed w/ the patch), links to http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_console_commands#Other_bugs , as BZ2 is not the only program hurt by keyboard-stealing apps.

-- GSH

[Fractangle]

I'm running Vista Home Premium (32 bit). The bug described there seems very likely the cause, and I'll test its advice and edit this post when the results are in.

EDIT: The key works now! Thank you so much!

[squirrelof09]

Don't forget to applaud him!

[TheJamsh]

like he needs it ...

[Fractangle]

UPDATE: It works to open the console, which was what I tested. Since the console opened, I assumed that it works for the rest of the things. It doesn't. I can open the console, but I can't tell things to recycle and I can't select specific units from a squad.

[Red Devil]

Check out the end of Gameprefs.ini.  In order to change things, you have to copy entries to Localprefs.ini.

[Zero Angel]

Ooh interesting. I managed to fix the ~ key problem with all versions of BZ2 on my vista laptop.

I tried using the guide found here

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_console_commands#Other_bugs

Which pointed out the faulty driver, but when I uninstalled the driver it would reinstall -- and give me no option to disable. Some digging through my google searches eventually led me to a more permanent fix

[VoodooChile]

this problem is fixed by installing newkeys, i had the same problem.
here is where u can download newkeys92700:
http://www.bz2maps.com/files.html
read the instructions because i think u have to move a file manualy

[Nielk1]

this problem is fixed by installing newkeys, i had the same problem.
here is where u can download newkeys92700:
http://www.bz2maps.com/files.html
read the instructions because i think u have to move a file manualy

I do not know if new keys should be used on 1.3

[Fractangle]

Check out the end of Gameprefs.ini.  In order to change things, you have to copy entries to Localprefs.ini.

I can't find it in my FE install folder or any subfolders. I was able to find it in a different install of BZII, but that hardly helps.

Ooh interesting. I managed to fix the ~ key problem with all versions of BZ2 on my vista laptop.

I tried using the guide found here

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_console_commands#Other_bugs

Which pointed out the faulty driver, but when I uninstalled the driver it would reinstall -- and give me no option to disable. Some digging through my google searches eventually led me to a more permanent fix

The more permanent fix isn't working for me. It just keeps reinstalling the driver. I don't mind uninstalling it manually every time if that's what I need to do though. But as I said, this only fixes the console, it still doesn't let me recycle units or select individuals from a squad.

this problem is fixed by installing newkeys, i had the same problem.
here is where u can download newkeys92700:
http://www.bz2maps.com/files.html
read the instructions because i think u have to move a file manualy

I didn't see any instructions. I downloaded the executable, which I then ran and installed to my Battlezone 2 folder, and it looks like it doesn't really address the problem.

[Red Devil]

Gameprefs.ini is used in 1.3.

Newkeys is an edited copy of bzgame_keys.cfg which is put into your addon folder and I use it for 1.3, too.

[Fractangle]

I'm still having trouble, so my inner geek has decided to be scientific about this. Here's what I've done so far:



I've installed plain old fresh-off-the-cd BZ2, and it doesn't let me recycle units or select individuals from a squad.

I've made a copy of the fresh-off-the-cd folder, and installed newkeys to the copy. Still no success.

I've made another copy of the fresh-off-the-cd folder, and will try installing some version of 1.3; should I go with Public Beta 4, Public Beta 3, or Tech Alpha 5? I'll also try the 1.3 with and without Newkeys.

[Red Devil]

If you're running XP or Vista (blech!), you can run TA5.  If not, PB4a.

[Fractangle]

I'm running Vista, and believe me, blech doesn't cover the half of it. I remember the good ol' days, when file systems didn't explicitly lie to you about where you were saving things... </offtopic>

As to the test, I'll start with TA5, since I've already downloaded its installer, and bigger numbers are fun.