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Aliens, exist or not?

Started by cheesepuffly, August 02, 2009, 12:25:22 AM

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mrtwosheds

#15
Judging Humans to be clever because they do the sort of things Humans do, and every other being as dumb because they don't, is not intelligent its just smug.
Was ww1 Intelligent? ww2? Atomic bombs? Humans are a recent mutation, if you define intelligence as something only humans have, then clearly you are right, but it isn't.

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@Anyone who ACTUALLY thinks it's just Humans "killing" the planet... We weren't around as long as the other lifeforms of Earth. When we hit the scene, it was already "dying". Put the pieces together.
Hmm, no. It was doing perfectly well until about the beginning of the 20th century.

Feared_1

I agree with BBB. Maybe there are dinosaurs or some furry critters on distant planets, but no intelligent life (at least not intelligent enough to visit us).

bigbadbogie

QuoteJudging Humans to be clever because they do the sort of things Humans do, and every other being as dumb because they don't, is not intelligent its just smug.
Was ww1 Intelligent? ww2? Atomic bombs? Humans are a recent mutation, if you define intelligence as something only humans have, then clearly you are right, but it isn't.

It's not about what we choose to do. It's about what we are capable of doing.
Others would merely say it was good humour.


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cheesepuffly

#18
Quote from: bigbadbogie on August 02, 2009, 08:16:11 PM
It's not about what we choose to do. It's about what we are capable of doing.

I'm capable of killing you right now, but i don't choose to.
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bigbadbogie

Others would merely say it was good humour.


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mrtwosheds

QuoteI agree with BBB. Maybe there are dinosaurs or some furry critters on distant planets, but no intelligent life (at least not intelligent enough to visit us
But why do you think this? you have no evidence at all and no rational reason for thinking that might be the case. We are not "intelligent" enough to visit them yet and the way things are going here, probably never will be.
The simple explanation is that we have developed a self obsessed sense of superiority over all the other beings on our planet, and have defined Intelligence as something that is uniquely Human. If we did meet Aliens we would probably refuse to accept their Intelligence unless they behaved just like us.
As a species we have completely failed to learn even one "language" used by another species on this planet, we say its because they don't have any, but clearly they do communicate...
On some levels we are very smart, but on others we are very stupid.
I have often thought that if aliens did visit our planet, they would take one look at us and decide that attempting to communicate would be futile and very dangerous.

Feared_1

Quote from: mrtwosheds on August 03, 2009, 06:38:36 AM
But why do you think this? you have no evidence at all and no rational reason for thinking that might be the case. We are not "intelligent" enough to visit them yet and the way things are going here, probably never will be.

I have no evidence or rational reason to think otherwise. "Some people saw 'em" doesn't make any difference.

Quote from: mrtwosheds on August 03, 2009, 06:38:36 AMOn some levels we are very smart, but on others we are very stupid.
I have often thought that if aliens did visit our planet, they would take one look at us and decide that attempting to communicate would be futile and very dangerous.

Two humans communicating with each other is very dangerous these days :/

mrtwosheds

#23
QuoteI have no evidence or rational reason to think otherwise.
To assume that there are none without evidence is rational. But to think there may be only dumb ones is not.

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Warfreak

#25
he forgot the "/", jeez. :roll:

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mrtwosheds

QuoteI dont really honestly think your right >.>.
Yes you do. You believe In a supreme being, who lives in another dimension, or something.

cheesepuffly

Quote from: mrtwosheds on August 03, 2009, 04:56:53 PM
Yes you do. You believe In a supreme being, who lives in another dimension, or something.

You had (think assume) which was  not proper english. I was  making fun of that. Was not commenting on your point.
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Feared_1

No one has hard evidence. That is a fact, not an assumption.

SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE!!