Between BMP and TGA...which is the better format to use for BZII?

[BNG Da BZ Fool]

So TGA seems to be the best overall choice as all of my paint programs: Paint.Net, and GIMP support them both. As well as Truespace and Threed. I still do most of my modeling for BZII 1.2, so PNG is out for that right?  Does that also mean that dxtbz2 format is out for 1.2 as well?

I've been working with layers in Paint.net and sort of found out how to work with them by adding new ones as well as duplicating layers as well. I guess that it'll just take some time to figure something workable out. Also figured out that setting the transparency for each layer is required to actually blend the different layers in the paint workspace. I've got a lot of work ahead to make sense of it all. 

[Raven]

TGA due to alpha channels. And the smaller file size.

Though if on 1.3 use PNG

[TheJamsh]

dxtbz2 is not supported on bzII 1.2 BNG, that was an added implementation from pb3 and upwards i think...

1.3 also supports .jpeg should you wanna use it lol. i dont like that format though, it seems to cause problems...

[Raven]

JPEGS suck - artifacts are a major problem and the rest. If you want it to look decent the file size can be pretty bad compared to PNG etc.

PNGs seriously rule - and if you do it right they're the same size as .jpg if not smaller as well as the alpha transparency.
Of course IE fails hard with them the last time I bothered checking - not that it doesn't fail at most things - so there is an issue with using them on websites (rounded corners etc) but you can get CSS that does that.

Man I'm good at bending the topic
*shuts up*

[OvermindDL1]

Actually the two latest version of IE (7 and 8beta) handle PNG's far better now (finally, only ten+ years out of date).

For rounded corners, CSS is still the 'correct' way to go though, much less bandwidth required.
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[Raven]

Oh so they finally support PNG properly? Took them long enough...
Does it still crash all the time? IE7 does at school...

[Nielk1]

IE7 never crashes here unless something goes runaway; in which case its the site doing something wrong.

[mrtwosheds]

Does it still crash all the time? IE7 does at school...

Schools can't afford system administrators, nobody updates the systems...nobody who knew how to would want to do it without the pay cheque... nobody's gonna let the pupils do it...

[TheJamsh]

Schools can't afford system administrators, nobody updates the systems...nobody who knew how to would want to do it without the pay cheque... nobody's gonna let the pupils do it...

not at all. my old school had a system administrator (a tema of infact). and they upgraded to XP as soon as it came out.

[OvermindDL1]

My old high school from years past had students run the IT section, as such the computers actually ran quite well.  Of course this was back when Quake was the 'new game' with its own hidden section on the network.
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[Raven]

Yeah we have an IT 'team' too and they seem quite competent. Most of them want to sort things out but they're told not to. For example the poor ass login system that I get admit rights through every day... If I want it I have access to anything. I never DO anything as I actually like the school but they really should do something about it... A very easy way to get suedo-admin is to pull the ethernet cable out as you click login. It logs you into the user of that single machine - not a networked user. So it basically behaves as though its your PC.

Although I had to teach the teachers how to use Flash so that they could teach it. I should have asked to get payed! I gotta say only 1 IT teacher in the school knows vaguely what they are talking about.

[OvermindDL1]

If I ever have children and if any of their teachers are as inept as many of mine were, I am going to be very noisy to the school about fixing things.  Will also be noisy if they try to teach my children at a lower level then what they are capable of (no, I do not mean press them hard, but like when I was in grade school I was always bored out of my mind because the teachers were always teaching stupidity, repeating a thousand times, etc... not actually teaching anything, they just wanted to get through the day, or the other kids were mentally retarded, or something).  I am certain I would be a great teacher if I ever taught (and much of my family has encouraged that I do, most of them are teachers too), and homeschooling would definitely be a lot better for their knowledge (although that hits their social skills then, a fine balance it seems) if I taught them.
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[Raven]

Put it this way - I'm doing a post 16 course on ICT. We are making websites. Ok.

However, we have been told to do it in microsoft word as dreamweaver is 'too hard'
I wrote it in notepad and added any tweaks in dreamweaver.

16 years old. And we are told to do it in WORD?! EH?! Have you SEEN that source code?! Not to mention it looks like a dog vomited it up. My god... How can it be a qualification (A level, age 16-18) if you're making websites in bloody word.

And yes, in GCSE (age 14-16) we basically made very crap spreadsheets (joy) and then we had to screenshot EVERYTHING and wrote about it all. I mean we had to screenshot ourselves SAVING the document and explaining the saving process. That is just so patronizing I nearly cried.

But is it just me? Only 2 other people have similar abilities as me. I mean, its that bad people don't even know any keyboard shortcuts and are dumbfounded with ctrl+s, alt-f4, the windows key and arrow keys. Any 3d models and they go all glassy eyed, any flash interfaces or animations and their jaws just drop. Mention a proxy server and they zone out, try to explain hardware and they may as well faint. Come ON guys this is simple stuff.

[bigbadbogie]

Try showing them some c++!

[Raven]

I've never looked at that and wouldn't claim to know it
But considering they gasp, open-mouthed at basic HTML I think C++ would have the desired effect...*just*